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Is there any religious argument that actually stands when scrutinized with reason?

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JoStories

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Theunis said:
Thank you. I apologize most sincerely for my, as now revealed, incorrect assumption.
I will forthwith display my courtesy and reply to you in a large font.

One request could you use a larger font and colour in your footnote. You are using fine print and my own vision is bordering on -6. thank you.
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Thank you for this. And of course I can enlarge and make it a more noticeable color. I shall do that right after I finish with this post. Again, Thank you.

As you can see, I tried to enlarge the signature and it would not allow me to do so. I did change the color but that is all I can do with this. I did try sir.
 
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Theunis

Active Member
Shad said:
Try again son. When you reinterpret a generalized term as if it was talking about a specific after the specific is discovered by someone else that never made the claim of dust that is post hoc and ad hoc rationalization. You are interpreting dust so the verse is still considered, by you, correct. All you are doing is defending a flawed claim so it can not be falsified by fallacious reasoning. The same as with me calling QM stuff then claiming what is discovered fits my stuff term perfectly.

No it is a rejection of fallacious reasoning since both terms I have mentioned are fallacies. Dust is not an element, chemistry shows this, as dust is comprised of many elements. An element can not be simplified while dust can since one can separate the various particles based on the elements it is comprised of. Dust is comprised of particles. Your opinion does not trump scientific fact. All you have done is make your argument worse by claiming dust is an element itself.

A humanoid ape is not an element either. Do you even know what element means?



Negative since there is no evidence of these "gods" being aliens and mixing dna with people. It has never been established as fact. You response is that of a crackpot. Lets see some peer-reviewed work showing your claim is true. Lets see your data. Lets see your data for alien dna so we can compare it to our dna.



Another crackpot response from you. I reject that which has zero evidence for. Again demonstrate your claim is anything but pseudoscience.
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Thanks me lad for "calling this ancient "son" Oh sorry now I see, from my POV, you are attempting to be derogatory by equating me to a child whose knowledge is almost naught. Tut tut. "Walk softly Peter Troy"

Touche for me incorrectly equating a component to element.

Your "cracked" up opinion of me made me crack up with mirth.

Here is a link better explaining how I perceived "dust"
You will notice that "dust" is mentioned as an "element."

https://answersingenesis.org/human-body/from-dust-to-dust/
 
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Theunis

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outhouse said:
The scientific community considers parapsychology a pseudoscience
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In what way is this relevant to what I said I am? Is it merely a red herring because it is impossible for you to understand things beyond your ken.

Unsubstantiated !
Nope not the scientific community only some of their members think so.

See:-
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...there-scientific-taboo-against-parapsychology

Have a look at what the UCLA says about ""Mind over matter". They and the Neurological Department of the Massachusetts Hospital have confirmed it as fact. Thoughts have actually changed the physical structure of the brain !

Have a look at some of the UCLA courses for 2015-2016
http://www.uei.ucla.edu/clusters.htm

You also try reading the following articles
http://wanderlust.com/journal/how-yoga-changes-your-brain/
http://www.alzheimersprevention.org/downloadables/Yoga_and_Medical_Meditationtm.pdf
 
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Theunis

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Shad said:
..... You might as well claim logic is useless since I am strictly attacking the logic, in most cases, of your arguments. Also you are claiming that people that oppose your ideas contribute nothing yet opposition to bad ideas has made progress throughout history.
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How nice to say this while sometimes in direct or veiled manner you attempt to derogate someone.
Take a look at what you said - "....I am strictly attacking the logic, in most cases,...." (emphasis mine) This is a contradiction of terms !
 
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Theunis

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Shad said:
The golden rule can be very subjective due to the internal judgement regarding how we wish to be treated. For example I would want to be corrected if I held a incorrect, fallacious or weak argument based belief. Lets say the geocentric model. Since I am open to being corrected I extend this to other people. So the Golden rule to you could be different for me. You seem to hold that comfort and happiness is important while I think knowledge and truth are.
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Sorry for the belated reply.
My thoughts on he Golden Rule is more Universal.
It is not seeking comfort for it is the most difficult of all paths to follow.
It includes, with due consideration and respect of you as a person and those things you consider to be important in your life. It is walking in Beauty, embrace the Universe and in some respects "paying it forward"

I would rather say it is based on - Peace on earth and goodwill to all men.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Um you actually need to read these before posting. They help me not you.

Theunis said:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...there-scientific-taboo-against-parapsychology
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Perhaps parapsychology is no longer so “taboo” as it was a few years ago? Alternatively, maybe it never was taboo in the first place. The fact that mainstream science tends not to take parapsychology seriously is not proof of an irrational taboo, as scientists may have good reasons for being unconvinced of its claims.

Yet again, the editors of a respected mainstream journal have gone out of their way to ensure that parapsychological research receives a fair and informed hearing


Parapsychology has had multiple opportunities for over a century to earn mainstream acceptance.


all known attempts to replicate Bem’s findings was published (Galak, LeBoeuf, Nelson, & Simmons, 2012) which concluded that the average effect size for precognition was no different from zero
 
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Theunis

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outhouse said:
Um you actually need to read these before posting. They help me not you.



Perhaps parapsychology is no longer so “taboo” as it was a few years ago? Alternatively, maybe it never was taboo in the first place. The fact that mainstream science tends not to take parapsychology seriously is not proof of an irrational taboo, as scientists may have good reasons for being unconvinced of its claims.

Yet again, the editors of a respected mainstream journal have gone out of their way to ensure that parapsychological research receives a fair and informed hearing


Parapsychology has had multiple opportunities for over a century to earn mainstream acceptance.


all known attempts to replicate Bem’s findings was published (Galak, LeBoeuf, Nelson, & Simmons, 2012) which concluded that the average effect size for precognition was no different from zero
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It was the intention to help you realize your mistaken thoughts that Parapsychology is not a pseudoscience:p
 
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Theunis

Active Member
outhouse said:
The Breakdown
A Stressed Mind = Stressed Muscles = Negative and Anxious Thoughts

A Calm Mind = Relaxed Muscles = Positive and Uplifting Thoughts


PROVES NOTHING for telepathy
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hmm off at a tangent are we ?
Take another look at the title of the link
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
What exactly is it you are debating? Is it a belief in God? Is it obeying the tenets of one's faith? There are so many different faiths and religions that have different points, there are those that have a deity and those who don't have a deity; those who try and better a person through various means; those with wise and philosophical teachings, etc.
 
ChristineES

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
outhouse said:
he proposes telepathy is not pseudoscience

I have provided a credible link that states it is pseudoscience
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I should have quoted the opening post, that is who and what I was responding to. I was kind of late in responding. I have a job now and have much less time to come here. .
 
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Theunis

Active Member
ChristineES said:
What exactly is it you are debating? Is it a belief in God? Is it obeying the tenets of one's faith? There are so many different faiths and religions that have different points, there are those that have a deity and those who don't have a deity; those who try and better a person through various means; those with wise and philosophical teachings, etc.
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Without a preamble and a forum identification that yours is a new post, I must assume you are referring to the original post but like our recent post you are also
not on the original subject.

I have given them at least three items that they will be not be able to refute. So far there are no takers

Our recent discourse is way off topic.
 
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