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Neuropteron

Active Member
Those of us who dare look beyond syndicated news are aware that the "elite" have big plans to ameliorate mankind's life on earth (or at least the "deserving" part of mankind).

Regardless. I think, the majority of us would love to see drastic improvements to our way of life and a solution to problems on earth.

A well known, but often overlooked solution to mankinds suffering, perhaps because it fails to reflect modern enlightened thinking, is the Kingdom of God.

Interestingly it is the second most important thing Christians are asked to pray for and one of the most important thing they should be concerned with and proclaim to the world.

God's expression of His sovereignty through this subsiduary government has been expressed from the beginning in symbolic phrases progressively foretelling that it would be headed by a deputy ruler.

Christ was the one who unweiled the -up to this point in time- "secret of the Kingdom" but even then only a select few understood it's import.

We know now, that the actual implementation of the Kingdom start with the promise that JHWH made with King David, where God promised David that there would be no end to his Kingdom and last forever.
This means that only a man fullfiling all the legal genealogycal requiremts of inheritance could be placed on the "throne of David".
The anticipation of the Jewish people that Jesus would fulfilled these requirements -we are told- proved true.
Jesus became the Messiah or Christ when he presented himself to John for baptism thereby become the anointed King Designate and the one recognised by God's Court as having the legal right to the throne of David.

The Jewish people understood correctly that Jesus was the King of a Government, although they thought that it would be an earthly government that would free them from Roman oppression. In this they were mistaken, since it was to be a heavenly government, that would not only relieve the suffering of the Jews but set all of mankind free from enslavement to sin and death.

Although the Jews and Christians of the first century, clearly understood that the "Kingdom" was a real Government, an attempt was made by mainstream church to confuse it's true significance, and to delegate it's meaning to a obscure mystic inwardness and emotional abstraction.
To this end translations were used that claim Jesus said to the Pharisees "the Kingdom is within you" or "in your heart". This interpretation is based on an archaic language used by the KJ and DY.
To choose alternate wordings that are aligned with the context, such as the kingdom is "amongst you" or "with you" are also perfectly good transliteration of the Greek and importantly runs paralell to the context, because having Jesus make the statement that "the kingdom is within you" to the pharisees runs diametrically opposed to the fact that the Kingdom with it's associated righteoussness could not be in the heart of the Pharisees,,,, since their heart was filled with deceit and iniquity.

A short synoptsis of the features surrounding the Kingdom of God might look like this.

The Kingdom of God is a Government
It's in heaven.
Jesus is the King.
It's domain will be the earth.
It's subjects will be on earth.
It will have 144.000 coregent (perhaps a figurative number).
The co-regents are chosen from manking.
The initiall subject will be survivors from harmageddon.
JHWH makes the decision who survives.
I can be assumed that the wicked will not survive harmageddon.
Eventually resurrected ones will be added from the righteous and unrighteous from sheol(grave).
The Kingdom will be in operation for one thousand years.
Satan and his hordes will be imprisoned for the duration, hindering them from interfering in human affairs.
During that time earth population can accept or reject God's rule.
After the thousand years Satan will be let loose again.
Individuals will have to prove their allegiance.
Satan will be terminated.
Faithful ones will receive life eternal.
Christ will hand the Kingdom to God.
Pain and suffering will be gone, replaced by a paradise.

Of course this is nowhere as idyllic as the thought that our forefathers were tadpoles and that we can look forward to eternal oblivion.
I only suggest that it is worth some examination.

Perhaps you can mention a important feature or some detail that I overlooked.

"This is what I continue praying that you ...may make sure of the more important things" (J.C)
 
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MyM

Well-Known Member
Those of us who dare look beyond syndicated news are aware that the "elite" have big plans to ameliorate mankind's life on earth (or at least the "deserving" part of mankind).

Regardless. I think, the majority of us would love to see drastic improvements to our way of life and a solution to problems on earth.

A well known, but often overlooked solution to mankinds suffering, perhaps because it fails to reflect modern enlightened thinking, is the Kingdom of God.

Interestingly it is the second most important thing Christians are asked to pray for and one of the most important thing they should be concerned with and proclaim to the world.

God's expression of His sovereignty through this subsiduary government has been expressed from the beginning in symbolic phrases progressively foretelling that it would be headed by a deputy ruler.

Christ was the one who unweiled the -up to this point in time- "secret of the Kingdom" but even then only a select few understood it's import.

We know now, that the actual implementation of the Kingdom start with the promise that JHWH made with King David, where God promised David that there would be no end to his Kingdom and last forever.
This means that only a man fullfiling all the legal genealogycal requiremts of inheritance could be placed on the "throne of David".
The anticipation of the Jewish people that Jesus would fulfilled these requirements -we are told- proved true.
Jesus became the Messiah or Christ when he presented himself to John for baptism thereby become the anointed King Designate and the one recognised by God's Court as having the legal right to the throne of David.

The Jewish people understood correctly that Jesus was the King of a Government, although they thought that it would be an earthly government that would free them from Roman oppression. In this they were mistaken, since it was to be a heavenly government, that would not only relieve the suffering of the Jews but set all of mankind free from enslavement to sin and death.

Although the Jews and Christians of the first century, clearly understood that the "Kingdom" was a real Government, an attempt was made by mainstream church to confuse it's true significance, and to delegate it's meaning to a obscure mystic inwardness and emotional abstraction.
To this end translations were used that claim Jesus said to the Pharisees "the Kingdom is within you" or "in your heart". This interpretation is based on an archaic language used by the KJ and DY.
To choose alternate wordings that are aligned with the context, such as the kingdom is "amongst you" or "with you" are also perfectly good transliteration of the Greek and importantly runs paralell to the context, because having Jesus make the statement that "the kingdom is within you" to the pharisees runs diametrically opposed to the fact that the Kingdom with it's associated righteoussness could not be in the heart of the Pharisees,,,, since their heart was filled with deceit and iniquity.

A short synoptsis of the features surrounding the Kingdom of God might look like this.

The Kingdom of God is a Government
It's in heaven.
Jesus is the King.
It's domain will be the earth.
It's subjects will be on earth.
It will have 144.000 coregent (perhaps a figurative number).
The co-regents are chosen from manking.
The initiall subject will be survivors from harmageddon.
JHWH makes the decision who survives.
I can be assumed that the wicked will not survive harmageddon.
Eventually resurrected ones will be added from the righteous and unrighteous from sheol(grave).
The Kingdom will be in operation for one thousand years.
Satan and his hordes will be imprisoned for the duration, hindering them from interfering in human affairs.
During that time earth population can accept or reject God's rule.
After the thousand years Satan will be let loose again.
Individuals will have to prove their allegiance.
Satan will be terminated.
Faithful ones will receive life eternal.
Christ will hand the Kingdom to God.
Pain and suffering will be gone, replaced by a paradise.

Of course this is nowhere as idyllic as the thought that our forefathers were tadpoles and that we can look forward to eternal oblivion.
I only suggest that it is worth some examination.

Perhaps you can mention a important feature or some detail that I overlooked.

"This is what I continue praying that you ...may make sure of the more important things" (J.C)

interesting...but until one is an expert in retranslating the entire Bible, the RC Bible and books associated not within like the Apocrypha, you won't understand its entirety...plus, authors are unknown and that makes it even more hard to make out its authenticity.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Those of us who dare look beyond syndicated news are aware that the "elite" have big plans to ameliorate mankind's life on earth (or at least the "deserving" part of mankind).

Regardless. I think, the majority of us would love to see drastic improvements to our way of life and a solution to problems on earth.

A well known, but often overlooked solution to mankinds suffering, perhaps because it fails to reflect modern enlightened thinking, is the Kingdom of God.

Interestingly it is the second most important thing Christians are asked to pray for and one of the most important thing they should be concerned with and proclaim to the world.

God's expression of His sovereignty through this subsiduary government has been expressed from the beginning in symbolic phrases progressively foretelling that it would be headed by a deputy ruler.

Christ was the one who unweiled the -up to this point in time- "secret of the Kingdom" but even then only a select few understood it's import.

We know now, that the actual implementation of the Kingdom start with the promise that JHWH made with King David, where God promised David that there would be no end to his Kingdom and last forever.
This means that only a man fullfiling all the legal genealogycal requiremts of inheritance could be placed on the "throne of David".
The anticipation of the Jewish people that Jesus would fulfilled these requirements -we are told- proved true.
Jesus became the Messiah or Christ when he presented himself to John for baptism thereby become the anointed King Designate and the one recognised by God's Court as having the legal right to the throne of David.

The Jewish people understood correctly that Jesus was the King of a Government, although they thought that it would be an earthly government that would free them from Roman oppression. In this they were mistaken, since it was to be a heavenly government, that would not only relieve the suffering of the Jews but set all of mankind free from enslavement to sin and death.

Although the Jews and Christians of the first century, clearly understood that the "Kingdom" was a real Government, an attempt was made by mainstream church to confuse it's true significance, and to delegate it's meaning to a obscure mystic inwardness and emotional abstraction.
To this end translations were used that claim Jesus said to the Pharisees "the Kingdom is within you" or "in your heart". This interpretation is based on an archaic language used by the KJ and DY.
To choose alternate wordings that are aligned with the context, such as the kingdom is "amongst you" or "with you" are also perfectly good transliteration of the Greek and importantly runs paralell to the context, because having Jesus make the statement that "the kingdom is within you" to the pharisees runs diametrically opposed to the fact that the Kingdom with it's associated righteoussness could not be in the heart of the Pharisees,,,, since their heart was filled with deceit and iniquity.

A short synoptsis of the features surrounding the Kingdom of God might look like this.

The Kingdom of God is a Government
It's in heaven.
Jesus is the King.
It's domain will be the earth.
It's subjects will be on earth.
It will have 144.000 coregent (perhaps a figurative number).
The co-regents are chosen from manking.
The initiall subject will be survivors from harmageddon.
JHWH makes the decision who survives.
I can be assumed that the wicked will not survive harmageddon.
Eventually resurrected ones will be added from the righteous and unrighteous from sheol(grave).
The Kingdom will be in operation for one thousand years.
Satan and his hordes will be imprisoned for the duration, hindering them from interfering in human affairs.
During that time earth population can accept or reject God's rule.
After the thousand years Satan will be let loose again.
Individuals will have to prove their allegiance.
Satan will be terminated.
Faithful ones will receive life eternal.
Christ will hand the Kingdom to God.
Pain and suffering will be gone, replaced by a paradise.

Of course this is nowhere as idyllic as the thought that our forefathers were tadpoles and that we can look forward to eternal oblivion.
I only suggest that it is worth some examination.

Perhaps you can mention a important feature or some detail that I overlooked.

"This is what I continue praying that you ...may make sure of the more important things" (J.C)
This was actually very good. We may disagree on certain points (such as the 144,000) but the gist of it was amazing.

Interestingly, Jesus said, Matt 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

And the power of the Kingdom is found in His words as stipulated in Mark 4.

The Kingdom has a King. A Kingdom has its set of rules and principles by which it operates by.

In the interim, we are Ambassadors of said Kingdom.

God's original purpose, as stated to Adam and Eve, will be in effect again. To expand the Garden of His Kingdom.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
A Kingdom has its set of rules and principles by which it operates by.

The only law in the "kingdom" of God is the law of love. And everything is measured against that standard: is it from love or anger? is it from love or frustration? is it from love or being judgemental? To me, the mark of that true love is perfect joy as St. Francis described it:

HOW ST FRANCIS, WALKING ONE DAY WITH BROTHER LEO, EXPLAINED TO HIM WHAT THINGS ARE PERFECT JOY

One day in winter, as St Francis was going with Brother Leo from Perugia to St
Mary of the Angels, and was suffering greatly from the cold, he called to
Brother Leo, who was walking on before him, and said to him: "Brother Leo, if
it were to please God that the Friars Minor should give, in all lands, a great
example of holiness and edification, write down, and note carefully, that this
would not be perfect joy."

A little further on, St Francis called to him a second time: "O Brother Leo, if
the Friars Minor were to make the lame to walk, if they should make straight
the crooked, chase away demons, give sight to the blind, hearing to the deaf,
speech to the dumb, and, what is even a far greater work, if they should raise
the dead after four days, write that this would not be perfect joy."

Shortly after, he cried out again: "O Brother Leo, if the Friars Minor knew all
languages; if they were versed in all science; if they could explain all
Scripture; if they had the gift of prophecy, and could reveal, not only all
future things, but likewise the secrets of all consciences and all souls, write
that this would not be perfect joy."

After proceeding a few steps farther, he cried out again with a loud voice:
"O Brother Leo, thou little lamb of God! if the Friars Minor could speak with
the tongues of angels; if they could explain the course of the stars; if they
knew the virtues of all plants; if all the treasures of the earth were revealed
to them; if they were acquainted with the various qualities of all birds, of
all fish, of all animals, of men, of trees, of stones, of roots, and of waters
- write that this would not be perfect joy."

Shortly after, he cried out again: "O Brother Leo, if the Friars Minor had the
gift of preaching so as to convert all infidels to the faith of Christ, write
that this would not be perfect joy."

Now when this manner of discourse had lasted for the space of two miles,
Brother Leo wondered much within himself; and, questioning the saint, he said:
"Father, I pray thee teach me wherein is perfect joy."

St Francis answered: "If, when we shall arrive at St Mary of the Angels, all
drenched with rain and trembling with cold, all covered with mud and exhausted
from hunger; if, when we knock at the convent-gate, the porter should come
angrily and ask us who we are; if, after we have told him, `We are two of the
brethren', he should answer angrily, `What ye say is not the truth; ye are but
two impostors going about to deceive the world, and take away the alms of the
poor; begone I say'; if then he refuse to open to us, and leave us outside,
exposed to the snow and rain, suffering from cold and hunger till nightfall -
then, if we accept such injustice, such cruelty and such contempt with
patience, without being ruffled and without murmuring, believing with humility
and charity that the porter really knows us, and that it is God who maketh him
to speak thus against us, write down, O Brother Leo, that this is perfect joy.

And if we knock again, and the porter come out in anger to drive us away with
oaths and blows, as if we were vile impostors, saying, `Begone, miserable
robbers! to to the hospital, for here you shall neither eat nor sleep!' - and
if we accept all this with patience, with joy, and with charity, O Brother Leo,
write that this indeed is perfect joy.

And if, urged by cold and hunger, we knock again, calling to the porter and
entreating him with many tears to open to us and give us shelter, for the love
of God, and if he come out more angry than before, exclaiming, `These are but
importunate rascals, I will deal with them as they deserve'; and taking a
knotted stick, he seize us by the hood, throwing us on the ground, rolling us
in the snow, and shall beat and wound us with the knots in the stick - if we
bear all these injuries with patience and joy, thinking of the sufferings of
our Blessed Lord, which we would share out of love for him, write, O Brother
Leo, that here, finally, is perfect joy.

And now, brother, listen to the conclusion. Above all the graces and all the
gifts of the Holy Spirit which Christ grants to his friends, is the grace of
overcoming oneself, and accepting willingly, out of love for Christ, all
suffering, injury, discomfort and contempt; for in all other gifts of God we
cannot glory, seeing they proceed not from ourselves but from God, according
to the words of the Apostle, `What hast thou that thou hast not received from
God? and if thou hast received it, why dost thou glory as if thou hadst not
received it?' But in the cross of tribulation and affliction we may glory,
because, as the Apostle says again, `I will not glory save in the cross of our
Lord Jesus Christ.' Amen."​
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The only law in the "kingdom" of God is the law of love.

Yes, that is the foundation. But it is also about faith, words and actions all based on that love. (Heal the sick et al) - Also, the law of liberty.. probably a few more. But the foundation, as you said, is love.
 
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