Is this proof that the first God was a man?

[Greatest I am]

Hi again!



In the Baha'i view, there is only One God, known by many different names! Just a few of these include: God, Boje, Jehovah, Dieu, Wankantanka, El, Gott, Yahweh, Dios, Allah, Bog, Adonai, and Pavardegar.

And He sends all the Divine Messengers, each of Whom founds a new religion as a successive stage in one ever-evolving faith, the Faith of God!

Some of these Messengers are: Krishna, Moses, Zoroaster, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, and Baha'u'llah. There have been others, including many lost to history; and there will be more forever in the future!



IOV the key is to follow the latest one, the one with the most current teachings! (Of course, who this is changes over the ages. . . .)

Best regards,

Bruce

Two things come to mind.

I too believe that God is perfect.

Does your God produce perfect works and how does that fact jive with what you see around you. Are all things about our reality perfect as a perfect God would produce or are we in an imperfect form.

When I use the word perfect for my God I allow perfection to get better over time. Perfection in evolution you might say.

If souls join God in heaven as in my view then for any of us to be relevant to God and heaven then we must change heaven and God upon our death.

If not then we are irrelevant to God or heaven.

My God and heaven is more of a cosmic consciousness and we all have impact and relevance to it.

Your thoughts.

Regards
DL

 

[BruceDLimber]

Hi again!

But at the same time you await a new messenger sent by God. A miracle, No?

While I will happily stipulate that yes, this is indeed a miracle, I do not wait for one because our scriptures state explicitly that the next one won't come for at least a millenium (now down to about 850 years)!

But it's my understanding that's not the primary sort of miracle this thread was discussing.

So as the Baha'i scriptures say,

"O SON OF SPIRIT!

"Noble have I created thee, yet thou has disgraced thyself. Rise, then, unto that for which thou wast created."
—(The Hidden Words, Part One, #22)

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Greatest I am]

Hi again!



While I will happily stipulate that yes, this is indeed a miracle, I do not wait for one because our scriptures state explicitly that the next one won't come for at least a millenium (now down to about 850 years)!

But it's my understanding that's not the primary sort of miracle this thread was discussing.

So as the Baha'i scriptures say,

"O SON OF SPIRIT!

"Noble have I created thee, yet thou has disgraced thyself. Rise, then, unto that for which thou wast created."
—(The Hidden Words, Part One, #22)

Peace,

Bruce

The problem I see with prophesy is that it locks God unto a certain action at a certain time.
Does this not null His free will and force compliance?
If He does not have to comply then what good is prophesy?

Regards
DL

 

[BruceDLimber]

Hi again!

The problem I see with prophesy is that it locks God unto a certain action at a certain time.

Does this not null His free will and force compliance?
If He does not have to comply then what good is prophesy?

You might be correct EXCEPT for the fact that these prophecies, as we see it, come from God! It's therefore His choice to make them, and He then, of course, follows through ("keeps His promises," if you like)!

And the idea of God "forcing Himself" is clearly oxymoronic given that one of His titles is "the Unconstrained." It's thus simply an inherent shortcoming of our language that allows us to construct nonsensical statements.

Further, you overlook the fact that prophesy, like prayer, is for OUR benefit, not His: He is Self-subsisting and needs nothing whatever!

Cheers!

Bruce

 

[Greatest I am]

Hi again!



You might be correct EXCEPT for the fact that these prophecies, as we see it, come from God! It's therefore His choice to make them, and He then, of course, follows through ("keeps His promises," if you like)!

And the idea of God "forcing Himself" is clearly oxymoronic given that one of His titles is "the Unconstrained." It's thus simply an inherent shortcoming of our language that allows us to construct nonsensical statements.

Further, you overlook the fact that prophesy, like prayer, is for OUR benefit, not His: He is Self-subsisting and needs nothing whatever!

Cheers!

Bruce

Hi Bruce

If prayer is for our benefit the it is selfish and God will ignore it as He should.

Did He not show a need for us to love adore and obey Him?

If not then why work to that end?

Regards
DL