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Is this statement homophobic?...
- Thread starter KWED
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Yes it is.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
Muh cOnTeXt!!!
stvdv
Veteran Member
You made it quite easy for me
This is extreme² homophobic
Not only homophobic, but also genocide (massmurdering all)
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Not sure how "context" would change the issue?
Sedim Haba
Outa here... bye-bye!
WHO the F voted no?????
Some would see homophobia as justified, I guess. But clearly that is homophobic.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
I was being stupid/sarcastic. People claim context somehow makes homophobic verses not homophobic. Or somehow context makes bad verses seem not so bad.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Hmmm tough one. Give me a clue: does it result in spending all eternity burning in the fires of hell?
Yes. In my view if anywhere in your dialogue comes 'I would never be gay, not because I'm straight but because someone told me being gay or having gay sex is immoral' is homophobic. Distinctly different from an 'I like chocolate over vanilla' it's putting an irrationally negative value judgement on someone's traits.
How I'm going to react, however, is not based on their scripture (because scriptural literalism is a boring strawman) but how they personally deal with gay people in their life. If they don't treat gays as lesser, try to stop them from being gay, vote against gay rights then I have no reason at all to get in their face about it except to literally virtue signal. (Not a term I use lightly or often. And don't get me wrong, the very act of declaring 'god says being gay is wrong' is also virtue signaling.)
How I'm going to react, however, is not based on their scripture (because scriptural literalism is a boring strawman) but how they personally deal with gay people in their life. If they don't treat gays as lesser, try to stop them from being gay, vote against gay rights then I have no reason at all to get in their face about it except to literally virtue signal. (Not a term I use lightly or often. And don't get me wrong, the very act of declaring 'god says being gay is wrong' is also virtue signaling.)
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, yes.
But the general problem is this: It is okay to harm people, who are wrong.
That one is not limited to standard religion and includes the problems of what harm and wrong are. Further some people don't understand, when they are harming other people.
And no, you can't use evidence to measure harm or wrong.
Yes
Heyo
Veteran Member
No.
To call this homophobic is an insult to homophobes. For me it sounds more religious than homophobic.
Do you have a citation? Thanks
stvdv
Veteran Member
It is okay to "help" harmful people by stopping them to "hurt" other people
The truth is its quite possible that homosexuality can and will spread everywhere. The fear that this might happen is an actual fear not uncommon in straight society. The coined word 'homophobic' is not very well coined. It would literally mean "Afraid of self" if it were translated from the prefixes and suffixes; but its a word now. It is a vague word referring to all fears related to homosexuality. Yes that statement "Homosexuality...(etc) ...purged from the world" represents homophobic feelings.
I am not sure what would happen if the world became more homosexual. I don't know. The idea is unsettling to me. That doesn't mean I have a problem with homosexuals or with the existence of homosexuality. The unknown is always unsettling. Is that homophobic? Yes.
Does homophobic also refer to a fear of individual homosexuals? Yes.
Does it refer to fear of being flirted at by homosexuals? Yes.
Does it also refer to minor discomfort around one or more homosexuals? Yes.
Its a catch-all word. If you don't like the idea of a gay president, you're homophobic.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, I don't play that game with you.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Are straight men and women, by choosing opposite sex relationships, homophobic?
Seriously?