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Is Tommy Robinson the bravest man in the UK?

Notanumber

A Free Man
I think his "career" choice is a poor one. I wouldn't put my family through what Tommy's has often by his own actions.



You are overestimating Tommy's influence.



Which she did by telling her father.



I think he is fulled by rage.



Sure.



Or just stop listening.



Government is just protecting itself from backlash of it's own policy

The way the establishment have treated and continue to treat Tommy is a warning to others to be silent and conform without question.

How much influence would Tommy have today if he had not been de-platformed?

The number of followers that he had on Facebook and Twitter where the numbers that politicians could only dream of having themselves.

She did the right thing by telling her father only to see her father punished as a consequence.

Justifiable rage fuelled by frustration.

I am glad that you agree that he has a right to express his opinions.

The establishment want us to stop listening because they have tried and failed to counter his arguments.

The MCB are still pushing for Islamophobia laws and are currently targeting the Conservative party.

This is an example of the sense that he talks when he is given a platform.


You can hear the baying mob in the background.

Should residents have to suffer the intimidation of having bricks and beer kegs thrown through their windows in modern Britain?

Some elderly people have had to board up their windows because they refuse to move out of the area.

Should people be spat at on the streets of modern Britain?

Who will highlight these atrocities if they run the risk of being treated the same as Tommy?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The way the establishment have treated and continue to treat Tommy is a warning to others to be silent and conform without question.

How much influence would Tommy have today if he had not been de-platformed?

The number of followers that he had on Facebook and Twitter where the numbers that politicians could only dream of having themselves.

She did the right thing by telling her father only to see her father punished as a consequence.

Justifiable rage fuelled by frustration.

I am glad that you agree that he has a right to express his opinions.

The establishment want us to stop listening because they have tried and failed to counter his arguments.

The MCB are still pushing for Islamophobia laws and are currently targeting the Conservative party.

This is an example of the sense that he talks when he is given a platform.


You can hear the baying mob in the background.

Should residents have to suffer the intimidation of having bricks and beer kegs thrown through their windows in modern Britain?

Some elderly people have had to board up their windows because they refuse to move out of the area.

Should people be spat at on the streets of modern Britain?

Who will highlight these atrocities if they run the risk of being treated the same as Tommy?

Considering you are talking about a guy convicted of assault, more than once, fraud twice, leading a brawl during a riot, contempt of court twice. Etc, etc

I think its somewhat hypocritical to hype him up as anything more than a criminal
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The way the establishment have treated and continue to treat Tommy is a warning to others to be silent and conform without question.

I doubt that as there are still plenty of people talking against views and the government. The recent LFGT education and protest for example.

How much influence would Tommy have today if he had not been de-platformed?

No idea as I would have to consider not only his recent activism but that of his EDL days and how that could have played into the present.

The number of followers that he had on Facebook and Twitter where the numbers that politicians could only dream of having themselves.

Those numbers can be faked. It isn't reliable. More so followers does not mean support overt or covert.

She did the right thing by telling her father only to see her father punished as a consequence.

He was arrested as there is no citizen's arrest in the UK. You are focusing merely on a casual relation not a real lesson that she can learn. Now for argument's sake lets say the claims are 100% correct. She could have learned that legal systems and LEO do not equate justice.

Justifiable rage fuelled by frustration.

I am not talking about this incident only. Honestly I can not say I would not freak out as well if it were my child. Tommy has anger issues which can direct focus and blind him. I think at times his anger blinds him to alternatives.

I am glad that you agree that he has a right to express his opinions.

I have a very relaxed view of free speech and see the flaws when it comes to various restriction present in Europe. One glaring flaw is religion gets a pass.

The establishment want us to stop listening because they have tried and failed to counter his arguments.

I am talking about individuals.

The MCB are still pushing for Islamophobia laws and are currently targeting the Conservative party.

Like I said religion gets a pass.

This is an example of the sense that he talks when he is given a platform.


You can hear the baying mob in the background.

It happens in a mob and media these days.

Should residents have to suffer the intimidation of having bricks and beer kegs thrown through their windows in modern Britain?

Nope.

Some elderly people have had to board up their windows because they refuse to move out of the area.

LEO is playing politics

Should people be spat at on the streets of modern Britain?

No especially not at this time

Who will highlight these atrocities if they run the risk of being treated the same as Tommy?

Being an activist comes with risks. If I go to China and start protesting it's government I expect I will be arrested. This is a form of martyrdom with knowledge of consequences related to acts I choose. There are plenty of people to take Tommy's place and they will do so willingly. Yes punishment is a form of deterrent. However the person in question is terming the risk/reward.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
I doubt that as there are still plenty of people talking against views and the government. The recent LFGT education and protest for example.



No idea as I would have to consider not only his recent activism but that of his EDL days and how that could have played into the present.



Those numbers can be faked. It isn't reliable. More so followers does not mean support overt or covert.



He was arrested as there is no citizen's arrest in the UK. You are focusing merely on a casual relation not a real lesson that she can learn. Now for argument's sake lets say the claims are 100% correct. She could have learned that legal systems and LEO do not equate justice.



I am not talking about this incident only. Honestly I can not say I would not freak out as well if it were my child. Tommy has anger issues which can direct focus and blind him. I think at times his anger blinds him to alternatives.



I have a very relaxed view of free speech and see the flaws when it comes to various restriction present in Europe. One glaring flaw is religion gets a pass.



I am talking about individuals.



Like I said religion gets a pass.



It happens in a mob and media these days.



Nope.



LEO is playing politics



No especially not at this time



Being an activist comes with risks. If I go to China and start protesting it's government I expect I will be arrested. This is a form of martyrdom with knowledge of consequences related to acts I choose. There are plenty of people to take Tommy's place and they will do so willingly. Yes punishment is a form of deterrent. However the person in question is terming the risk/reward.

Did you watch his Oxford Union address?

If so, what did you think of it?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Centre Parcs are full of CCTV, I assume Stephen's lawyers are trawling those for evidence to back up the story?

It's taking a long time though.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Centre Parcs are full of CCTV, I assume Stephen's lawyers are trawling those for evidence to back up the story?

It's taking a long time though.

Have you never heard of stories of conveniently missing footage or cameras not working that day?

If CP are as efficient as you make out, they may find footage of those three single males loitering around the pool on other occasions as well.

We can only hope that the police were diligent enough to check the perps mobile phone and computer equipment for evidence but I would not hold my breath if I were you.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Have you never heard of stories of conveniently missing footage or cameras not working that day?

If CP are as efficient as you make out, they may find footage of those three single males loitering around the pool on other occasions as well.

We can only hope that the police were diligent enough to check the perps mobile phone and computer equipment for evidence but I would not hold my breath if I were you.
"I'm not paranoid but everyone is out to get me"

The pool the 'incident' occurred in was not a children only pool. If there were 3 single males on site, Centre Parcs will have their details.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
But you are not defending Stephen; you are throwing muck at someone else, who also isn't an MP but you are just trying to deflect and change the subject.
A good sign that you know Stephen's guilty

It is all connected.

If only life was as simple as you seem to believe it to be.

The Labour party are throwing muck at anyone they can in the hope of deflecting criticism of their plague of Anti-Semitism.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
It is all connected.

If only life was as simple as you seem to believe it to be.

The Labour party are throwing muck at anyone they can in the hope of deflecting criticism of their plague of Anti-Semitism.
It's not the Labour Party throwing much at SYL; it's the right wing press.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Centre Parcs are full of CCTV, I assume Stephen's lawyers are trawling those for evidence to back up the story?

The lawyers are not the cops. You are assuming the facility handed recordings over to Tommy and/or his lawyers. Given Tommy's habits and character if he had CCTV recordings he would have said something or just posted a specific clip on the net already.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
It's not the Labour Party throwing much at SYL; it's the right wing press.

Who was the Deputy Leader of the Labour party?

Our society is based upon some basic freedoms. Freedom of religion is the foundation, from that stems freedom under the law, freedom of the press and freedom of speech. Tom Watsons’ ideology is a form of ‘liberal fascism’ – one which takes away all those basic freedoms. In Tom’s Britain we can only speak, print or publish what the State ideology permits. And there is no equality under the law. The rich and powerful get to determine the law.. The ruling elites will argue that they only ban ‘extremists’, but then they take to themselves the right to define what an extremist is. They use the law, the big corporate companies and the Twitter mobs to silence all dissent. In the name of freedom and tolerance, they will not tolerate freedom.


Tom Watson’s ideology is a far greater threat to our society than Tommy Robinson.


(I am not a prophet nor the son of a prophet but let me prophesy that I will be called a fascist for writing this article and will face calls that I should be banned In future if I am asked to speak on the BBC doubtless some activist group will write in and say ‘he defended Tommy Robinson, therefore in the name of free speech he should not be allowed to speak. These are the new ‘British’ values!)

Tom Watson or Tommy Robinson – Who is the Greater Threat?
 
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