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Is Trump About To Blow His Record Of No New Wars?

Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
For a couple years now, he's been ramping up hostilities with Iran.
And now current events begin to smell like a nascent conflagration.

Saudi oil tankers hit by 'sabotage attack' amid US-Iran tensions
TWO Saudi oil tankers were hit by a "sabotage attack" off the United Arab Emirates, it was announced this morning - as tensions flare between the US and Iran.
The ships were struck off the coast of the port of Fujairah - with one of the tankers due to be loaded with Saudi crude oil bound for the United States.


Iran commander calls U.S. military in Gulf a target not a threat -ISNA
GENEVA, May 12 (Reuters) - A senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Sunday the U.S. military presence in the Gulf used to be a serious threat but now represents a target, the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) reported.

The U.S. military has sent forces, including an aircraft carrier and B-52 bombers, to the Middle East in a move that U.S. officials said was made to counter "clear indications" of threats from Iran to American forces in the region.

The USS Abraham Lincoln is replacing another carrier rotated out of the Gulf last month.

"An aircraft carrier that has at least 40 to 50 planes on it and 6,000 forces gathered within it was a serious threat for us in the past but now it is a target and the threats have switched to opportunities," said Amirali Hajizadeh, head of the Guards' aerospace division.
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
"Speak softly, and carry a big stick" Teddy Roosevelt

"Speak softly, and carry a damn big stick" esmith
 
sooda

sooda

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
For a couple years now, he's been ramping up hostilities with Iran.
And now current events begin to smell like a nascent conflagration.

Saudi oil tankers hit by 'sabotage attack' amid US-Iran tensions
TWO Saudi oil tankers were hit by a "sabotage attack" off the United Arab Emirates, it was announced this morning - as tensions flare between the US and Iran.
The ships were struck off the coast of the port of Fujairah - with one of the tankers due to be loaded with Saudi crude oil bound for the United States.


Iran commander calls U.S. military in Gulf a target not a threat -ISNA
GENEVA, May 12 (Reuters) - A senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Sunday the U.S. military presence in the Gulf used to be a serious threat but now represents a target, the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) reported.

The U.S. military has sent forces, including an aircraft carrier and B-52 bombers, to the Middle East in a move that U.S. officials said was made to counter "clear indications" of threats from Iran to American forces in the region.

The USS Abraham Lincoln is replacing another carrier rotated out of the Gulf last month.

"An aircraft carrier that has at least 40 to 50 planes on it and 6,000 forces gathered within it was a serious threat for us in the past but now it is a target and the threats have switched to opportunities," said Amirali Hajizadeh, head of the Guards' aerospace division.
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My gut reaction to this was "let's you and him fight"... Plenty of terrorist outfits would LOVE to see the US and Iran go to it and enjoy the economic fallout.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Why is it that I cannot trust Trump and his administration even on this?

Is he ramping this all up to detract from all his legal problems? He wouldn't be the first leader to do that, and he has praised "strong leaders" like Putin, Kim, and even Saddam Hussein.

Frankly, I think Trump would be more than willing to sell-out our country if it personally benefited him.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Revoltingest said:
How would war with Iran benefit him?
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It would make Putin very happy. And that will benefit Trump in a myriad of ways. From keeping his secrets to lucrative business dealings to additional help in the next campaign.

I never understood why anybody thought that Trump, with his history of conflict, was the more peaceful option. Among his campaign promises was to start conflicts with everyone from our trading partners to Iran and Cuba. This was in stark contrast to his opponent who helped craft the peace deal with Iran.

I always thought that the reason Putin wanted President Trump was because Putin knew that a divisive, incompetent, and conflict driven POTUS would benefit Russia in the long run.

Tom
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
Revoltingest said:
For a couple years now, he's been ramping up hostilities with Iran.
And now current events begin to smell like a nascent conflagration.

Saudi oil tankers hit by 'sabotage attack' amid US-Iran tensions
TWO Saudi oil tankers were hit by a "sabotage attack" off the United Arab Emirates, it was announced this morning - as tensions flare between the US and Iran.
The ships were struck off the coast of the port of Fujairah - with one of the tankers due to be loaded with Saudi crude oil bound for the United States.


Iran commander calls U.S. military in Gulf a target not a threat -ISNA
GENEVA, May 12 (Reuters) - A senior Iranian Revolutionary Guards commander said on Sunday the U.S. military presence in the Gulf used to be a serious threat but now represents a target, the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) reported.

The U.S. military has sent forces, including an aircraft carrier and B-52 bombers, to the Middle East in a move that U.S. officials said was made to counter "clear indications" of threats from Iran to American forces in the region.

The USS Abraham Lincoln is replacing another carrier rotated out of the Gulf last month.

"An aircraft carrier that has at least 40 to 50 planes on it and 6,000 forces gathered within it was a serious threat for us in the past but now it is a target and the threats have switched to opportunities," said Amirali Hajizadeh, head of the Guards' aerospace division.
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Iran talks a big talk about our carriers being target opportunities... To back up after language like that, to those savages, would be a signal in their bird like brains, that we are afraid of them. It would embolden them.
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Landon Caeli said:
Iran talks a big talk about our carriers being target opportunities... To back up after language like that, to those savages, would be a signal in their bird like brains, that we are afraid of them. It would embolden them.
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We savages can chest thump but they can't?
 
Cassandra

Cassandra

Active Member
Iran's foreign ministry spokesman called the incidents on Sunday to ships near the coast of Fujairah "worrisome and dreadful", and asked for an investigation into the matter.
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Personally I do not believe Iran is behind this.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Landon Caeli said:
Iran talks a big talk about our carriers being target opportunities... To back up after language like that, to those savages, would be a signal in their bird like brains, that we are afraid of them. It would embolden them.
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Why would you refer to them as "savages"?
They've never attacked us and we have attacked them multiple times, starting in the early 50s and including a war with at least a million casualties.
Tom
 
Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
sun rise said:
We savages can chest thump but they can't?
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That's right. And I don't mean that in a snide, biased manner, I mean that as an essential factor for the future of civilized democracy in the West.

We must secure our way of life at all costs. Even if it means having things others cannot.
 
Stanyon

Stanyon

WWMRD?
columbus said:
They've never attacked us and we have attacked them multiple times, starting in the early 50s and including a war with at least a million casualties.
Tom
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Yeah that "cold war" thing, I never thought the cold war was ever really cold- we and other nations just used others countries and bodies to have hot wars while we and they pulled the strings.
 
C

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Landon Caeli said:
That's right. And I don't mean that in a snide, biased manner, I mean that as an essential factor for the future of civilized democracy in the West.

We must secure our way of life at all costs. Even if it means having things others cannot.
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You don't understand why this sort of immoral and hypocritical behavior just won't work in the modern, global, world?
Tom
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
And one thing that's truly scary is that, according to former Representative Joe Scarborough (R- Fla), when Trump was being prepped for the debates by a retired military expert, this latter man said that Trump asked him three times that if we have nuclear weapons why aren't we using them?
 
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