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Is Trump Stupid, Mad (NPD) or both.

Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
What do people think.?

There seem to be an alarming number of reports from mental health specialist suggesting that he is suffering from all the symptoms of NPD. a condition which can only get worse, and will lead to ever-increasing, bizarre and erratic decisions and outbursts.

From recent tweets statements and speeches. this seems to be increasingly the case.
What provision does the constitution hold for dealing with such a situation.?
 
Upaava

Upaava

Member
Kirran and Terry, I am in my seventies and have seen much evil in the world over my lifetime. That evil always works to create wars by emotionally manipulating people to fight against one another. These evil people have learned to hide in the dark, using their money and influence to create public opinion according to what helps promote their violent agenda. Most of all they are afraid of being exposed by someone not under their control. Trump is such a person and they are using their media puppets to undermine him in every way that they can. Please do not be fooled.

Wikileaks releases have helped to expose these evil people, and some of the journalists and politicians they have bought. Look behind the curtain they are hiding behind and don't let them manipulate you. They think we are stupid and laugh at how easily they can get us to follow their dark plans for the world.

You will need to see the truth and not follow the crowd, which requires you to think for yourselves and not be afraid of where that will take you. Be brave, be honest, and work together with those who think for themselves, seeking first and foremost to find and follow the truth even when you must stand alone. Those few who do are the ones who help the world the most.
 
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Upaava

Upaava

Member
Kirran said:
I'll be honest @Upaava, the misogyny, xenophobia and arrogance of the guy kinda put me off.
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I understand your feelings, Kirran, but there have been past American presidents with worse flaws than Donald, who went on to great accomplishments for America and the world. If you research Donald's life from objective sources, you'll find he has many good qualities, such as loyalty, kindness, and generosity that the media has made sure not to mention.

Those hiding behind the curtain are really worried Donald will upset their applecart and they are doing everything in their power to turn public opinion against him, and many people, like yourself, are being fooled by it.

If we don't expose the real evildoers in the world we and the coming generations will face a dire future. That's why I am here, hoping that my words will not fall on deaf ears. Do your homework, seek out other researchers on youtube and other places where the truth can still be found. If you find my words and the research to be meaningful to you, please pass it on.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Upaava said:
Kirran and Terry, I am in my seventies and have seen much evil in the world over my lifetime. That evil always works to create wars by emotionally manipulating people to fight against one another. These evil people have learned to hide in the dark, using their money and influence to create public opinion according to what helps promote their violent agenda. Most of all they are afraid of being exposed by someone not under their control. Trump is such a person and they are using their media puppets to undermine him in every way that they can. Please do not be fooled.

Wikileaks releases have helped to expose these evil people, and some of the journalists and politicians they have bought. Look behind the curtain they are hiding behind and don't let them manipulate you. They think we are stupid and laugh at how easily they can get us to follow their dark plans for the world.

You will need to see the truth and not follow the crowd, which requires you to think for yourselves and not be afraid of where that will take you. Be brave, be honest, and work together with those who think for themselves, seeking first and foremost to find and follow the truth even when you must stand alone. Those few who do are the ones who help the world the most.
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I am in my 80's and lived through WW2 and every war since.
I am not fooled by anyone.
It is clear to me from the words I have heard, from his own mouth, that he suffers from NPD
He is Dangerous, but probably not as dangerous as Hitler Mussolini, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot. As their danger was magnified by the acquiescence of their people. Though McCarthyism showed that The USA was not immune to mass hysteria.
I am not smitten by conspiracy theories of little grey men in dark corners pulling our strings.
No one is undermining Trump, he is doing all that is needed himself.
 
Laika

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Terrywoodenpic said:
What do people think.?

There seem to be an alarming number of reports from mental health specialist suggesting that he is suffering from all the symptoms of NPD. a condition which can only get worse, and will lead to ever-increasing, bizarre and erratic decisions and outbursts.

From recent tweets statements and speeches. this seems to be increasingly the case.
What provision does the constitution hold for dealing with such a situation.?
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If the President were declared unfit for office, I think that it falls to the vice president (or whoever is in the line of succession) to become acting president of the US under the 25th amendment.

Acting President of the United States - Wikipedia

I'm deeply concerned about Trump's sanity but I'm endevouring not to make it about his policies. There are problems in the US that need solving but I don't think Trump is the man to do it. A better man could have pushed many of the same ideas or proposals and we wouldn't be questioning his fitness for office even if they are "extreme" by the standards of recent american history. You could go back to the fifties and the twenties and some of Trumps ideas would be more acceptable. We could have a "President Pence" based on his competence for office but its unlikely we're going to find his approach any more acceptable- just coherent maybe.
 
Laika

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Upaava said:
I understand your feelings, Kirran, but there have been past American presidents with worse flaws than Donald, who went on to great accomplishments for America and the world. If you research Donald's life from objective sources, you'll find he has many good qualities, such as loyalty, kindness, and generosity that the media has made sure not to mention.

Those hiding behind the curtain are really worried Donald will upset their applecart and they are doing everything in their power to turn public opinion against him, and many people, like yourself, are being fooled by it.

If we don't expose the real evildoers in the world we and the coming generations will face a dire future. That's why I am here, hoping that my words will not fall on deaf ears. Do your homework, seek out other researchers on youtube and other places where the truth can still be found. If you find my words and the research to be meaningful to you, please pass it on.
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There was a nice story I read (actually in an article talking about Trumps mental stability) that he was in a resturant one day and a kid came up to him and asked him to say "you're fired" as he does on the apprentice. He gave him a few thousand dollar cheque instead and told him to go have fun spending it.

Would you be ok with Mike Pence as President, pursuing the same policies as Trump?
 
Upaava

Upaava

Member
I wish they were only conspiracy theories, Terry, but the evidence proves otherwise. Not only Wikileaks but many other whistleblowers (some I work with), including within the government, FBI, and CIA, have risked their lives to share the truth of these people with us. It is easy to become angry about Donald's flaws and then be blinded to the truth because of it, but much is at stake and we need to rise above our feelings to find the truth. That choice is up to each of us.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Laika said:
There was a nice story I read (actually in an article talking about Trumps mental stability) that he was in a resturant one day and a kid came up to him and asked him to say "you're fired" as he does on the apprentice. He gave him a few thousand dollar cheque instead and told him to go have fun spending it.

Would you be ok with Mike Pence as President, pursuing the same policies as Trump?
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That was a boy with Terminal cancer when I read it last.......?
 
Upaava

Upaava

Member
Laika said:
There was a nice story I read (actually in an article talking about Trumps mental stability) that he was in a resturant one day and a kid came up to him and asked him to say "you're fired" as he does on the apprentice. He gave him a few thousand dollar cheque instead and told him to go have fun spending it.

Would you be ok with Mike Pence as President, pursuing the same policies as Trump?
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I believe that Mike Pence and Donald are working together with the same aims. Mike is a career politician and I am not sure if he would continue Donald's policies if he became president. But what they need now is for the people to wake up and support them, so they can uproot the evil that is threatening all of us.

BTW, when you have the kind of wealth that Donald has, giving away a thousand dollars is not a sign of mental instability-- just another story to undermine him-- but simply generosity that he has shown throughout his lifetime to many different recipients.
 
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Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Upaava said:
I wish they were only conspiracy theories, Terry, but the evidence proves otherwise. Not only Wikileaks but many other whistleblowers (some I work with), including within the government, FBI, and CIA, have risked their lives to share the truth of these people with us. It is easy to become angry about Donald's flaws and then be blinded to the truth because of it, but much is at stake and we need to rise above our feelings to find the truth. That choice is up to each of us.
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Very little remains secret in the USA. so much so that false leaks are as common as real ones, so as to obfuscate the truth.
I am not angry that he has NPD But I am seriously worried by it.
 
Terrywoodenpic

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Upaava said:
I believe that Mike Pence and Donald are working together with the same aims. Mike is a career politician and I am not sure if he would continue Donald's policies if he became president.
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There is no indication that Trump is listening to or working with Pence at all. since he became president.
I doubt Pence understands Trumps agenda any better than Trump or we do.
 
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