What's wrong with that?Yes, it's the banality of Evil.
Capitalists are really not mean, they are just banally greedy, and all their actions are a consequence of this greed.
Let's say that nobody procreates any more. No more births means no more workers.
So the Capitalists who own land will have to get their precious, candid hands dirty and till the soil and farm the land.
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Is "wage slavery" actually "slavery"? And is "capitalism" really "voluntary exchange"?
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PureX
Veteran Member
Capitalism rewards wealth and power with more wealth and power. It's a system rigged to do that.
The goal of the capitalist is to use their wealth and power to take as much wealth and power from others as is possible.
Slavery would be the ideal form of labor to the capitalist, so long as someone else had to feed, house, and clothe the enslaved.
The goal of the capitalist is to use their wealth and power to take as much wealth and power from others as is possible.
Slavery would be the ideal form of labor to the capitalist, so long as someone else had to feed, house, and clothe the enslaved.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
From my perspective, the fact that there is criminally minded people is an argument for getting rid of government. The argument goes that the people with ill intent will fill government roles and carry out their ill intentions on a grand scale.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
I disagree. A capitalist uses their wealth to create more wealth. A capitalist does not need to take from others. If others fail in their capitalist endeavors, it opens up more resources for more competent capitalists to fill the market.
Wealth is not a fixed resource. Capitalism is the system in which wealth is continuously created and everyone's economic situation can improve.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
Many a working man are proud capitalists. I think @Estro Felino might disagree since they characterize capitalists as simply the people running/owning the businesses. I could be wrong
Let's say that nobody procreates any more. No more births means no more workers.
So the Capitalists who own land will have to get their precious, candid hands dirty and till the soil and farm the land.
rocala
Well-Known Member
You may be. The term does not mean a supporter of the system.
Capitalist Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
a person who has capital especially invested in business. industrial capitalists. broadly : a person of wealth : plutocrat. Charitable organizations often seek help from capitalists.
Nothing.
I hope my prophecy comes true.
PureX
Veteran Member
That is not their goal. Creating wealth costs them money that they do not want to spend. They want to keep it for themselves. If they could sell you nothing for all the money you have, and get away with it, they would consider this an ideal transaction.
Taking as much as possible from others in exchange for giving them as little as possible is the singular goal of capital investor. And because we have lived with and under this system for so long and we have seen this abject greed rewarded and applauded at every turn it has become the goal of nearly everyone engaged in any form of trade. It’s so pervasive that you and many others cannot even see it anymore.
Yes, capitalism is all about creating “winners” and “losers”. Successful takers and the successfully taken from. Creating a society where everyone is constantly at war with everyone else for all the marbles. And a great many of us stupidly think this is a wise way for us all to live. When in fact, it is insanity.
That’s just a big lie the capitalists like to tell us all while they take as much of the limited wealth and resources for themselves as they can grab, while we idiots allow them to It.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The Subway melts were getting people hurt making them, some franchisees said they weren't going to carry them because of this and in response Subway crackdown on franchisees hard and now they can't say no. They can't even close their store for the day if the main corporate office doesn't approve.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
They can't create wealth, only obtain it from others. The only ones who can create it are those who print it.
And a lot of improvements didn't happen with capitalism. Abolition of slavery, for example, was state regulation. Ending child labor was state regulation. OSHA, again, is state regulation. Evem what we call the weekend was not created by the goodwill and benevolence of a free market.
Without regulation free market capitalism is just as bad as the USSR under Stalin or Germany under Hitler. Amd that's not hyperbole as those such as the East and West India Trading Companies were barbaric in how they they ran things.
an anarchist
Your local loco.
[Insert No True Scotsman argument below]
True capitalism hasn't been tried. True capitalism would require a lack of government and for the free market to be the governing force.
Been a while since I've read political theory, so that's all I got out of my noggin for the moment.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
We have had companies who have ran themselves as their own nation. There were not bound to state laws and regulations. They played by their own rules and it was terribly horrible for absolutely everyone but the owners. Turns out they were so tyrannical they'd punish people, sometimes with death, just for speaking poorly about the company.
Wouldn't that leave dealing with criminals to vigilantes?
And couldn't they be even worse than government?
This points out the advantage of elections.
Yerda
Veteran Member
A capitalist uses the power of capital to obtain more wealth. The creation of wealth is done by whoever carries out the work.
In fairy stories, yes.
Capitalism is the system where wealth is controlled by those who own capital.