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Is War EVER justified?
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doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
It is always justified.
kadzbiz
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Defending your homeland I agree with, but I hate it when the boundary of that homeland begins to include countries on the opposite side of the world.
A country will only come to the aid and defend another "weaker" country if it benefits them in some way, otherwise what business is it of theirs to interfere with an invasion?
doppelgänger;865890 said:
You mean their "belief" is justified, to them.
Joe_Stocks
Back from the Dead
War is jusitifed on a number of occasions.
Bishka
Veteran Member
kadzbiz
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What occasion is taking a human life justified?
Becky, you probably want to elaborate on that statement, but just to reply to it the way it is, I would say there are several occasions. Self defence, protecting someone else's life, capital punishment of a recalcitrant rapist or murderer.
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
I wouldn't say war is justified, but the act of defence is.
I can declare without any reservations all of the wars we're currently engaged in [Drugs, Iraq, Terrorism, Afghanistan] aren't.
I can declare without any reservations all of the wars we're currently engaged in [Drugs, Iraq, Terrorism, Afghanistan] aren't.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Justification is a necessary part of making war. There has never been and never will be a war that wasn't justified (literally, "made just" through the use of words or ideas) by those who waged it on any side.
There is no "objectively" just war. There is only the subjective belief of individuals that acts of extreme violence are "just," and the aggregate effect of the will of those individuals, which taken together may manifest itself in large scale violence in the spaces between people.
If someone thinks a war is "just," then to them it IS justified. Judgments must be considered in context of perspective for them to have any meaning.
This is how war is always justified. Every war can be turned into a war in self defense. Give me an act of large scale violence and I'll show you someone thinking they are threatened.
There is no "objectively" just war. There is only the subjective belief of individuals that acts of extreme violence are "just," and the aggregate effect of the will of those individuals, which taken together may manifest itself in large scale violence in the spaces between people.
If someone thinks a war is "just," then to them it IS justified. Judgments must be considered in context of perspective for them to have any meaning.
This is how war is always justified. Every war can be turned into a war in self defense. Give me an act of large scale violence and I'll show you someone thinking they are threatened.
If you mean, "Is there such a thing as a just war?" then I'd also have to say "sometimes" like others.
Just reasons:
1. To protect yourself when attacked.
2. To protect your allies when attacked.
Of course, there are probably more just reasons.
A good follow-up question would be: "Is a pre-emptive attack ever justified?"
To that I would have to say "Yes", if an attack from the other party, on yourself or your ally, is impending.
And this case also there are also probably more just reasons.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
All one has to do is convince one's self that an attack is impending and the war is justified. Then the other side's war in response is justified because you've attacked them.
It's a never-ending cycle. Every war is a "defensive" war on all sides. By such simple means, every war is "justified."
It's a never-ending cycle. Every war is a "defensive" war on all sides. By such simple means, every war is "justified."