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?!?! SOL? Is that an insult?
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Is Xmas offensive?
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Yeah, stay away form those feminists... they kick hard
Haha
?!?! SOL? Is that an insult?
No, it just means that you're "crap out of luck".
Knight of Albion
Well-Known Member
It doesn't offend me, no, but someone is too lazy to write the extra 5 letters?
Akivah
Well-Known Member
After posting this thread, I was informed of an irony. That Christianity appropriated pagan holidays and Christianized them (like Xmas). But nowadays the Christian elements of these holidays are fading away, but the pagan elements remain. Is that observation correct?
There are many different denominations of Christianity. The way the various denominations view and celebrate (or not) Christmas varies greatly.
Many people are aware of the elements from various cultures that are components of various holidays, yet still hold these holidays as holy.
Many people, even non-Christians, celebrate some of these holidays in purely secular ways. IMO, the non-religious celebration of these days by those that do not consider them holy does not in any way detract from those that do celebrate them as holy.
I hardly expect those denominations that do not celebrate the Christmas holiday as a holy day to be respectful in their view of those denominations that do view it as a holy day, but one would hope that could at least happen in the Christianity DIR.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
Yes, i think its fair to say that.
The X is there to cut out the word Christ. Some also use it as Xtains.
I am not a Christian who believes in Christmas as the celebration of the birth date of Jesus. It is pagan in origin But that is another matter.
The Use of the x is Xtian is very offensive, It shows that the people who invented this tradition did not want to right the world Christ because it was somehow offense to them to even mention the world Christ.
I am not a Christian who believes in Christmas as the celebration of the birth date of Jesus. It is pagan in origin But that is another matter.
The Use of the x is Xtian is very offensive, It shows that the people who invented this tradition did not want to right the world Christ because it was somehow offense to them to even mention the world Christ.
JerryL
Well-Known Member
"X" is the symbol for Christ (as is that funny "P" used on so many icons). This is Christian dogma. The belief that some external group is attacking Christmas or Christians with it is propaganda.
he “X” is actually indicating the Greek letter “Chi”, which is short for the Greek [imagine some Greek letters I'm not sure how to insert], meaning “Christ”. So “Xmas” and “Christmas” are equivalent in every way except their lettering.
The practice of using the symbol “X” in place of Christ’s name has been going on among religious scholars for at least 1000 years.
Eventually, this shorthand trick spread to non-religious writings where nearly everywhere “Christ” appeared in a word, the Greek Chi would replace that part of the word. For example, in the 17th and 18th centuries, there are numerous non-religious documents containing instances of “Xine”, which was a common spelling for someone whose name was Christine.
he “X” is actually indicating the Greek letter “Chi”, which is short for the Greek [imagine some Greek letters I'm not sure how to insert], meaning “Christ”. So “Xmas” and “Christmas” are equivalent in every way except their lettering.
The practice of using the symbol “X” in place of Christ’s name has been going on among religious scholars for at least 1000 years.
Eventually, this shorthand trick spread to non-religious writings where nearly everywhere “Christ” appeared in a word, the Greek Chi would replace that part of the word. For example, in the 17th and 18th centuries, there are numerous non-religious documents containing instances of “Xine”, which was a common spelling for someone whose name was Christine.
JerryL
Well-Known Member
Yes. That would be the pronunciation of "X" in this context.
Cool. At some point I when I saw "Xians" out of context, I thought it's pronounced like Zians.
Is Xmas really another matter, or rather, the heart of the matter ?
Could you picture Jesus dressed up in a Santa suit ? [ Santa being the god of Christmas ]
How did the apostles celebrate the birthday of Jesus? The answer is that they didn't.
Yes, Christmas is non-biblical in origin and always will be.
Jesus taught that worship should be based on truth - John 4 vs 23,24
Christmas is Not religious truth, and smacks of falsehood - flying raindeer - aka Christmas fairy tale in order to play Babes in Toyland.
The nativity scene or story is a good example of how man has handed down false teachings.
Such as: the un-numbered magi being at the manger when they never there.
Would Jesus or the apostles give Christian names to a non-scriptural celebration ?
How many evergreen trees are sacrificed to Santa each year ?
Christmas balls representing the SUN, and Not The Son.
So, isn't Christmas largely a manufactured holiday pointing to its origin in a non-biblical past ?
In Greek, the first letter of "Christ" is X, as in Χριστοσ. Xmas is just a shorthand for Christmas, though not very many people know that. And heck, an ancient abbreviation for "Christ" is XC--you see it all over the place in some of the oldest Biblical manuscripts.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I like how people came in here to state that "X" is to blot out Christ after it was already explained what the actual historical usage of "X" was.
Blackmarch
W'rkncacntr
depends how you use it. but usually no it's not.
The X is simply from a time when people could hardly read. X is literally a "cross". Cross-mass. That's why it shows up in retail, mind. It started that way, to let people know what was coming up and it has been left alone because it only started to become "offensive" in the 20th century. Despite the fact it was started by devout Christians who were taking mercy on the illiterate people of their time.