Is Yaldabaoth really real?

[ChieftheCef]

If I am talking about evil, I can speak quite generally, brining in ideas from Buddhism to Islam. But if I'm discussing an evil ENTITY, that is only relevant to its particular religion.

Do you even know what genocide means? It refers to the obliteration of a group, not a single person.

Nor do I have any wish to adversely affect you as a person. I wish you all the best.

Pretend that judgement day isn't something that brain dead morons and delusional zealots would bring to fruition. Don't believe me, look at Trump. I predicted he would happen back in... 2007-08. The Catholic church is so good at "controlling" it right?

It makes no sense that Jesus would endorse the demiurge.

I don't really know everythiung yet but... It makes total sense, I am studying it. Jesus preaches against a sexual immorality so innocuous and positive and beneficial according to science, just ask the benefits of sex. One of them is stress relief. Jesus also tells you to hate your family. Jesus is a foundation of sand. Nothing good can come from Set.

 

[ChieftheCef]

The Gnostics believed that Jesus was sent by the other true God who is perfect.

Which to me is bizarre, but I don't know their story yet. All Abrahamic religion has done is take a literal unjust lie for absolute power by Akhenaten copy and pasted the best stuff from polytheists and daoists and dharmists and contort their own version of reality that is systematically negative and push everyone backwards what with his arguing amongst himself over algebra, killing people who didn't agree about what amounts to petty bull****. Honestly it is as disgusting as shock sites to me. Believe it or not it is unnatural. Humans are altrusistic creatures, cocreaters, stewards of all environements including their own just takes time. They are not the kind of thing best served by bickering over details that lead to tribalism.

 

[TheSwede]

Pretend that judgement day isn't something that brain dead morons and delusional zealots would bring to fruition. Don't believe me, look at Trump. I predicted he would happen back in... 2007-08. The Catholic church is so good at "controlling" it right?

I don't really know everythiung yet but... It makes total sense, I am studying it. Jesus preaches against a sexual immorality so innocuous and positive and beneficial according to science, just ask the benefits of sex. One of them is stress relief. Jesus also tells you to hate your family. Jesus is a foundation of sand. Nothing good can come from Set.

Jesus doesn't tell you to hate your family. He told that the ones that were going to be his disciples at the time (of which there only became 12) they had to basically hate everything including themselves because they would forsake everything that was their normal responsibility. He did not say that regular people should do that.

 

[TheSwede]

Which to me is bizarre, but I don't know their story yet. All Abrahamic religion has done is take a literal unjust lie for absolute power by Akhenaten copy and pasted the best stuff from polytheists and daoists and dharmists and contort their own version of reality that is systematically negative and push everyone backwards what with his arguing amongst himself over algebra, killing people who didn't agree about what amounts to petty bull****. Honestly it is as disgusting as shock sites to me. Believe it or not it is unnatural. Humans are altrusistic creatures, cocreaters, stewards of all environements including their own just takes time. They are not the kind of thing best served by bickering over details that lead to tribalism.

It makes perfect sense. The way God is described in OT and the way God is described by Jesus does not seem to be the same God. One is jealous, cruel, threatens and use violence whenever he pleases. He makes regrets and doesn't give the impression of being perfect. But Jesus tells of a God who is loving, caring and perfect. They figured that those 2 can't be the same God. Their conclusion makes sense. Either that or God is schizophrenic.

 

[ChieftheCef]

Jesus doesn't tell you to hate your family. He told that the ones that were going to be his disciples at the time (of which there only became 12) they had to basically hate everything including themselves because they would forsake everything that was their normal responsibility. He did not say that regular people should do that.

Okay. That's scientifically backwards to punish your followers like that and psyche them out before the big game. They did it all fine? Just more excuse for Yaldo to torture his creations.

 

[ChieftheCef]

It makes perfect sense. The way God is described in OT and the way God is described by Jesus does not seem to be the same God. One is jealous, cruel, threatens and use violence whenever he pleases.

One is the trap and the other is the bait. DO you see ever, at all, sects of this alleged divine argue amongst themselves (steadily bad foundations, unlike every other religion EVER) and then poiitning themselves to worshipping Yaldabaoth alone?

He makes regrets and doesn't give the impression of being perfect.

Just a "divine" power through the universes limitations of the complexity of the sheer reality.

But Jesus tells of a God who is loving, caring and perfect.

I can smell that bait a mile away, ooh boi.

They figured that those 2 can't be the same God. Their conclusion makes sense. Either that or God is schizophrenic.

Not to me.

 

[TheSwede]

Okay. That's scientifically backwards to punish your followers like that and psyche them out before the big game. They did it all fine? Just more excuse for Yaldo to torture his creations.

I don't think you read the verse or understood it, it wasn't a demand. You can't order someone to hate. It was a requirement. Those who didn't hate wouldn't be willing to leave their homes to do his biddings and live for only him until their death.
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The gnostics didn't worship Yaldabaoth. They worshiped the other one.

 

[ChieftheCef]

I don't think you read the verse or understood it, it wasn't a demand. You can't order someone to hate. It was a requirement.

I don't think you understand, that's still beyond ****ed up for something of such stature to do.

Those who didn't hate wouldn't be willing to leave their homes to do his biddings and live for only him until their death.

Wrong again, governments don't tell you to hate others, quite the opposite for a functioning one.

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The gnostics didn't worship Yaldabaoth. They worshiped the other one.

Wrong again, if they worshipped Jesus in any way other than survive. They were then either scared or too dumb to realize. Gnosticism is wrong by the way. Bad is cocreative discordant yet harmnoic necessary creation of the world. Death leaves room for life. Though if you interpret Yaldabaoth as an Earth Devil it does seem truer. If you didn't know, Yahweh is Yaldabaoth AND Set. I only wish I could tell the Setians. I suppose it'll have to happen in later years after everyone has found out about Yaldabaoth.

 

[ChieftheCef]

 

[ChieftheCef]

I agree Yaldo is the evilest thing encountered in disguise, that's why he has that sheep in wolves clothing; to throw you off. He tells us to work backwards against our biology which is what disease is. I just disagree, Jesus is Yaldo in disguise. And I'm looking into proving it. Yes I am testing a hypothesis, essentially, but I am noticeably wise. I realized hermetic, monotheist, dharmic, polytheist, teaching, though not yet Native American because I can't find a place to talk to them, through science. I'm not your average cookie.

 

[TheSwede]

No

Wrong again, governments don't tell you to hate others, quite the opposite for a functioning one.

Fallacy: A religious cult and a paying government is not the same thing. Governments pay you and/or the family for your work and if the government go down you are not required to continue their work.

Jesus was a cult leader and wanted a certain kind of devotees. They were to forsake their families to work free for Jesus (which only a person would do if they hated their families since it meant it left their families in poverty). Even if Jesus died they should continue and they should never expect to get anything back.
Of course it was f up! It's why in the story, you are referring to, the people who first asked to join him then didn't want to anymore after his explanation.

Your basically a conspiracy theorist trying to do literal out of context interpretation on the bible.

 

[ChieftheCef]

No

No

Fallacy: A religious cult and a paying government is not the same thing. Governments pay you and/or the family for your work and if the government go down you are not required to continue their work.

Honestly I expect that reply from a disingenuous fascist

You have to uphold the government wherever you go, whatever you do. Even if it goes down. You are owned by your country of residence, in essence.

Jesus was a cult leader and wanted a certain kind of devotees. They were to forsake their families to work free for Jesus (which only a person would do if they hated their families since it meant it left their families in poverty). Even if Jesus died they should continue and they should never expect to get anything back.
Of course it was f up! It's why in the story, you are referring to, the people who first asked to join him then didn't want to anymore after his explanation.

Like a government. If you live in the west the government you're under in some form or fashion owns you.

Your basically a conspiracy theorist trying to do literal out of context interpretation on the bible.

My basic conspiracy theorist trying to do literal out of context interpretation of the bible? We must find him. Sure brother bear, I'm the dumbass.

 

[ChieftheCef]

Jesus was a cult leader and wanted a certain kind of devotees. They were to forsake their families to work free for Jesus (which only a person would do if they hated their families since it meant it left their families in poverty). Even if Jesus died they should continue and they should never expect to get anything back.

Like a soldier? Or any other person even remotely affiliated with any kind of any authority?
Oh now?

I don't think you read the verse or understood it, it wasn't a demand. You can't order someone to hate.

I don't think you see the reality or even think about it. You have weapons, you have GOVERNMENTS. It's surprisingly easy to do that if you don't have your head in your ***.

It was a requirement. Those who didn't hate wouldn't be willing to leave their homes to do his biddings and live for only him until their death.

Yaldadupe.

 

[ChieftheCef]

No


Fallacy: A religious cult and a paying government is not the same thing. Governments pay you and/or the family for your work and if the government go down you are not required to continue their work.

Only autists who don't think "oh, people can lie" don't know that there's more to money to the world.
He didn't need pay, he needed encouragement and a message that wasn't full of flaw. Then he would've been Iao. But no, Susej is odlaY

 

[ChieftheCef]

No


Fallacy: A religious cult and a paying government is not the same thing. Governments pay you and/or the family for your work and if the government go down you are not required to continue their work.

Jesus was a cult leader and wanted a certain kind of devotees. They were to forsake their families to work free for Jesus (which only a person would do if they hated their families since it meant it left their families in poverty). Even if Jesus died they should continue and they should never expect to get anything back.
Of course it was f up! It's why in the story, you are referring to, the people who first asked to join him then didn't want to anymore after his explanation.

Your basically a conspiracy theorist trying to do literal out of context interpretation on the bible.

See the basic problem with this is that the disciples would appreciate the power they got from sticking to Jesus's message. The bigger flaw? It didn't happen. It was written by groups of scribes working of the then Ancient Isrealian government.