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Is YHVH Omni-Anything?

ThirtyThree

ThirtyThree

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Is YHVH Omnipotent? Omniscient? Omnipresent? Any one, or all of the above?

I do not believe so, as it makes no sense, in my opinion, for YHVH to have created man, knowing man would grieve him enough for him to cause the flood, then regret causing it, then promise not to cause it again.
 
Shaul

Shaul

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Premium Member
So because you can't figure out what His thoughts are then He must not have any reasons. It sounds like the problem is not that He doesn't have cause and reasons but that you want Him to conform to your limited image of Him.
 
jeager106

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Ohhh, noooo. Not more of this.:shrug:

:facepalm:

I'll chance an answer from my perspective based on many decades of religious
studies.
I dunno.
However I believe "god" (insert noun of choice here) created man with the
ability to make choices.
Else God's creation would not have had a will of his own and no ability to make
choices.
It seems to be that Creator God wanted man to have choices as the angels had.
Recall the rebellion in heaven when Satan lured other angels to follow Satan
and rebel against God.
From a personal perspective as a father of 4 I'd not want my offspring to blindly
following my direction for them.
I want my children to be able to think for themselves and a parent would at least
hope the children would follow a safe, responsible, path in life.
So I believe Creator God wanted the same for His human creations.
Choice.
Would you want to go through your life without the ability to make choices for
youself?
The Hebrew word, the word timshel—‘Thou mayest’— that gives a choice. It might be the most important word in the world.

Food for thought what?

God said to Adam "don't eat from that tree" but Adam followed Eve and ate the
thing and mankind has suffered ever since.:facepalm::facepalm:
 
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jeager106

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Tumah said:
G-d is omni-everything. What He isn't, is emotional.
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Interesting.
God’s hatred of sin implies that He loves His people and wants to bless them.

I won't post citations. If you are at all interested you do the research.
Hatred and love are emotions, wants is a desire.
I already have and remain convinced.

There are plenty of posters here that just want to spar for want of anything better
to do.
I desire to learn from all perspectives of the spiritual nature of God and man.
Why are YOU here?
Sites like this attract all manner of sorts don'cha'know?
It is, after all, the internet.
 
Tumah

Tumah

Veteran Member
jeager106 said:
Interesting.
God’s hatred of sin implies that He loves His people and wants to bless them.

I won't post citations. If you are at all interested you do the research.
Hatred and love are emotions, wants is a desire.
I already have and remain convinced.

There are plenty of posters here that just want to spar for want of anything better
to do.
I desire to learn from all perspectives of the spiritual nature of God and man.
Why are YOU here?
Sites like this attract all manner of sorts don'cha'know?
It is, after all, the internet.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure if you're asking me something or telling me something.
 
Kelly of the Phoenix

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
I don't think so. I think the omni's came with Hellenization, with Plato's ideal forms and such. It is NOT logical that a God would be better than anything we could come up with, either. Some people have really bad imaginations. :)

In the bible, God, no matter what is claimed, is never portrayed as omni-anything.

Omniscient?
Doesn't know where the only two humans on the planet are.
Has to test people's faith.
Needs bloody doorways to identify His own people prior to an insurrection.

Omnipotent?
Can't squash evil.
Plots often suffer from idiocy that omnipotence could've fixed in under a paragraph.
God is apparently allergic to iron, fairy-style, because God's army is specifically noted to lose against a human army from the Iron Age.

Omnipresent?
Similar to omniscient's issues.
You can be separated from God.
In the early days, had an anthropomorphic form. Even showed Moses His divine behind one day. :p
The bible is supposedly for everyone and yet only deals with a small section of the entire globe. You would think a Word of God for Everyone would include, y'know, EVERYONE.
 
Hockeycowboy

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
ThirtyThree said:
Is YHVH Omnipotent? Omniscient? Omnipresent? Any one, or all of the above?

I do not believe so, as it makes no sense, in my opinion, for YHVH to have created man, knowing man would grieve him enough for him to cause the flood, then regret causing it, then promise not to cause it again.
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Good reasoning! You reason on it better than many professed Christians.

The Bible book of Jonah also implies that God doesn't know the future, at least with regard to how individual humans will respond to things. The Ninevites repented, and Jehovah God changed His mind about destroying them. He does not interfere with anyones' free will, only if His worshippers' lives are on the line, will He do so. You might enjoy this Scripure: Deuteronomy 32:4-5, "the defect is their own."
 
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