jacquie4000
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My parents each had their seperate beliefs. My mom was a very religous person, my dad more scientific. I fall in the middle.
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comprehend said:Just curious.
1. Is your faith the same as your parents?
* If no, what is your faith and what were your parents?
comprehend said:I think the poll results are really quite amazing. At the moment, 73% of RF members have a different religion than their parents. What does that mean? Is this signaling a change within religion? I have the impression that in years past, changing religion was less common but I really have no reason for this other than my impressions.
What do you guys think, is the world getting restless with religion, are we in a stage of temporary change that will settle down again? or is there a fundamental shift going on?
JamesThePersian said:I actually think it signifies something rather more prosaic, which is that people who convert from one faith to another tend (just because that's the way they are) to be more interested in discussing religion and hence more likely to end up here. In my experience amongst those of my own faith, whilst the cradle believers will often provide you with valuable answers to questions you usually have to draw them out and more often its their example rather than words you learn from. The eager, bouncing bunnies who just have to discuss the latest book they've read are 99.9% of the time converts - we tend to refer to it as convert zeal and I certainly suffered from it badly (almost destructively at first). Now it's tempered but I still really enjoy long chats with the clergy that most of my cradle friends would likely not consider having.
James
comprehend said:Great point. That is something I had not considered but makes a lot of sense to me. Anyone have a happy case of convert zeal?
ah, I see what you mean. I was picturing more of an excitedness to have joined a new group, but I see the potential dangers of high enthusiasm and low wisdom. (I am a 7th generation LDS and have no experience with feeling convert zeal).JamesThePersian said:I'm not sure about a happy case of convert zeal. I think it usually tends to be unhappy. People with too much enthusiasm and too little wisdom often tend to jump off the deep end a little.
I have noticed that those who have left religion all together have a sort of zeal for condeming those who still believe. I guess one could say they are new converts to athiesm. I certainly see your point.Luckily there are usually peple around to keep your feet on the ground and most people get over it. If they don't though, they quite often seem to end up with the extremists. Honestly, if you ever meet an Orthodox layman who dresses like a monk, is bearded, and convinced all heterodox (and in all likelihood any Orthodox on the New Calendar) is damned to hell, I'd lay better than even odds on them being an adult convert who didn't have the support they needed.
I was lucky that I did because there honestly was a point when I could have gone that way (though probably not so far as to end up being so judgemental of others). I don't think we'd call the sort of enthusiasm that ex-converts often still display after they've become a bit more grounded convert zeal, but it does still often mark us out from the cradles. We tend to hold our faith in our heads and struggle to get it to permeate our hearts. The cradles often seem to be the reverse - there's nothing so striking to me as meeting an old lady who, whilst uneducated, seems to have the faith in her bones. You can learn an awful lot simply by quietly being around such people. And now I'm rambling so I'll stop.
James