Most often it's not about giving them a label, but about getting your label as far from them as possible.
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ISIS as Salafī, or why this label is accurate
sooda
Veteran Member
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Salafi movement - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement
The Salafi movement, also called Salafist movement, Salafiya, and Salafism, is a reform branch or revivalist movement within Sunni Islam that developed in Egypt in the late 19th century as a response to Western European imperialism. It had roots in the 18th-century Wahhabi movement that originated in the Najd region of modern-day Saudi Arabia. It advocated a return to the traditions of the ...
sooda
Veteran Member
The Muslim Brotherhood was kicked out of Arabia when Faisel was king back in the early 1970s. The Wahabbis aren't nationalistic (and Arabia was never a European colony) Wahabbis tend to be apolitical. The reform movement was originally to get rid of the innovations to Islam by the Turks and to get rid if the Turks.
I wish to know their definition of it.
sooda
Veteran Member
Have at it.. There's 8 years of news reports just about daily.
Oil, Extortion and Crime: Where ISIS Gets Its Money - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../oil-extortion-crime-where-isis-gets-its-money-n200991
Sep 11, 2014 · President Obama Lays Out ISIS Strategy. "The tax system was well-organized. They took money from small merchants, petrol station owners, generator owners, small factories, big companies, even pharmacists and doctors," said the shop owner who, out of frustration and fear, closed his store and is now trying to make a living as a taxi driver.
Where ISIS Gets Its Money. It occupies a triangle between northwestern Iraq, northeastern Syria and southeastern Turkey where generations of underworld financiers have mastered the art of selling on the black market, smuggling goods across borders and turning illicit money into the kind of benign currency foreign banks accept.
Reference: www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-18/where-isis-gets-its-money-how-it-endures-attacks-on-its-fin…
- How the Islamic State makes its money - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/18/how-isis-makes-its-money
Jun 27, 2019 · The terrorist group mostly refines oil in small, mobile refineries, then ships it by truck to the Turkish border, where oil brokers and traders buy or barter for it.
- Iraqi forces retake key oil refinery from Isis | Financial ...
https://www.ft.com/content/7e2889f4-6f4e-11e4-b50f-00144feabdc0
Nov 19, 2014 · Iraqi forces retake key oil refinery from Isis. The refinery produced about 170,000 barrels a day of gasoline and other oil products, and supplied northern Iraq and Baghdad before it was shut down after Isis seized control of the area.
- Author: Borzou Daragahi
- Syria oil map: the journey of a barrel of Isis oil
https://ig.ft.com/sites/2015/isis-oil
How the Isis oil economy works, explained through the journey of a barrel of oil in Syria. Follow the journey of a barrel of oil from the oilfield to refinery and markets to see how the Isis production system works, who is making money from it, and why it is proving so challenging to disrupt
- CIDOB - How Long Will ISIS Last Economically?
https://www.cidob.org/.../notes_internacionals/n1_98/how_long_will_isis_last_economically
Before the recent air raids of the US and its allies on bootleg refineries and oil sites, ISIS oil production from the Syrian fields was about 50,000 barrels per …
- ISIS Oil Revenue: Islamic State Makes Money By Selling Gas ...
https://www.ibtimes.com/isis-oil-revenue-islamic-state-makes-money-selling-gas-bashar...
ISIS Oil Revenue: Islamic State Makes Money By Selling Gas To Bashar Assad, New BBC2 Documentary Claims ... Fuel is processed inside a makeshift refinery …
- Author: Howard Koplowitz
- Fuelling Isis Inc | Financial Times
https://www.ft.com/content/a1f923a6-9f48-11e3-a48e-00144feab7de
Dec 17, 2014 · In addition to nefarious ransom and extortion rings, Isis taps areas under its control for money, charging retail stores about $2 a month in taxes.
sooda
Veteran Member
They were formerly Baathist Sunnis.
According to a think tank that does contract work for NATO and the Israeli government, the West should not destroy ISIS, the fascist Islamist extremist group that is committing genocide and ethnically cleansing minority groups in Syria and Iraq.
Why? The so-called Islamic State "can be a useful tool in undermining" Iran, Hezbollah, Syria and Russia, argues the think tank's director.
"The continuing existence of IS serves a strategic purpose," wrote Efraim Inbar in "The Destruction of Islamic State Is a Strategic Mistake," a paper published on Aug. 2.
By cooperating with Russia to fight the genocidal extremist group, the United States is committing a "strategic folly" that will "enhance the power of the Moscow-Tehran-Damascus axis," Inbar argued, implying that Russia, Iran and Syria are forming a strategic alliance to dominate the Middle East.
Israeli think tank: Don't destroy ISIS; it's a "useful tool" against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria
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I hear all this talk about ISIS; while no one talks about where they are getting their funding or what country they came from or who is supplying their arms?
If they were representing a “country” we would know it; but they are not, so who are they, where is the money coming from; what is their goal?
In my search for these answers this is what I found. Please post your comments while proving the evidence I found to be false.
ISIS, Israel, Iraq, And Syria: It’s All Part Of The Plan--?
Putin Aide Says Israel is Training ISIS
Putin Aide Says Israel is Training ISIS
Updated: Israeli General Captured in Iraq Confesses to Israel-Isis Coalition\“There is a strong cooperation between MOSSAD and ISIS top military commanders...Israeli advisors helping the Organization on laying out strategic and military plans, and guiding them in the battlefield”
https://tinyurl.com/ycwr8oaa
UN Report Reveals How Israel is Coordinating with ISIS Militants Inside Syria
https://tinyurl.com/y8nv6tqw
ISIS is a Creation of the Mossad
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If you find this unbelievable, just saying so isn’t enough.
Please prove it here and now!
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Why? The so-called Islamic State "can be a useful tool in undermining" Iran, Hezbollah, Syria and Russia, argues the think tank's director.
"The continuing existence of IS serves a strategic purpose," wrote Efraim Inbar in "The Destruction of Islamic State Is a Strategic Mistake," a paper published on Aug. 2.
By cooperating with Russia to fight the genocidal extremist group, the United States is committing a "strategic folly" that will "enhance the power of the Moscow-Tehran-Damascus axis," Inbar argued, implying that Russia, Iran and Syria are forming a strategic alliance to dominate the Middle East.
Israeli think tank: Don't destroy ISIS; it's a "useful tool" against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria
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I hear all this talk about ISIS; while no one talks about where they are getting their funding or what country they came from or who is supplying their arms?
If they were representing a “country” we would know it; but they are not, so who are they, where is the money coming from; what is their goal?
In my search for these answers this is what I found. Please post your comments while proving the evidence I found to be false.
ISIS, Israel, Iraq, And Syria: It’s All Part Of The Plan--?
Putin Aide Says Israel is Training ISIS
Putin Aide Says Israel is Training ISIS
Updated: Israeli General Captured in Iraq Confesses to Israel-Isis Coalition\“There is a strong cooperation between MOSSAD and ISIS top military commanders...Israeli advisors helping the Organization on laying out strategic and military plans, and guiding them in the battlefield”
https://tinyurl.com/ycwr8oaa
UN Report Reveals How Israel is Coordinating with ISIS Militants Inside Syria
https://tinyurl.com/y8nv6tqw
ISIS is a Creation of the Mossad
Site Offline
If you find this unbelievable, just saying so isn’t enough.
Please prove it here and now!
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sooda
Veteran Member
According to a think tank that does contract work for NATO and the Israeli government, the West should not destroy ISIS, the fascist Islamist extremist group that is committing genocide and ethnically cleansing minority groups in Syria and Iraq.
Why? The so-called Islamic State "can be a useful tool in undermining" Iran, Hezbollah, Syria and Russia, argues the think tank's director.
"The continuing existence of IS serves a strategic purpose," wrote Efraim Inbar in "The Destruction of Islamic State Is a Strategic Mistake," a paper published on Aug. 2.
By cooperating with Russia to fight the genocidal extremist group, the United States is committing a "strategic folly" that will "enhance the power of the Moscow-Tehran-Damascus axis," Inbar argued, implying that Russia, Iran and Syria are forming a strategic alliance to dominate the Middle East.
Israeli think tank: Don't destroy ISIS; it's a "useful tool" against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria
.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,…………………………………………
I hear all this talk about ISIS; while no one talks about where they are getting their funding or what country they came from or who is supplying their arms?
If they were representing a “country” we would know it; but they are not, so who are they, where is the money coming from; what is their goal?
In my search for these answers this is what I found. Please post your comments while proving the evidence I found to be false.
ISIS, Israel, Iraq, And Syria: It’s All Part Of The Plan--?
Putin Aide Says Israel is Training ISIS
Putin Aide Says Israel is Training ISIS
Updated: Israeli General Captured in Iraq Confesses to Israel-Isis Coalition\“There is a strong cooperation between MOSSAD and ISIS top military commanders...Israeli advisors helping the Organization on laying out strategic and military plans, and guiding them in the battlefield”
https://tinyurl.com/ycwr8oaa
UN Report Reveals How Israel is Coordinating with ISIS Militants Inside Syria
https://tinyurl.com/y8nv6tqw
ISIS is a Creation of the Mossad
Site Offline
If you find this unbelievable, just saying so isn’t enough.
Please prove it here and now!
I have posted several articles about where ISIS was getting their money. That's not a mystery.
Mossad didn't create ISIS .. That's an idiotic claim... and Inbar sounds like an idiot as well.
sooda
Veteran Member
Have at it.. There's 8 years of news reports just about daily.
@james dixon
Oil, Extortion and Crime: Where ISIS Gets Its Money - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../oil-extortion-crime-where-isis-gets-its-money-n200991
Sep 11, 2014 · President Obama Lays Out ISIS Strategy. "The tax system was well-organized. They took money from small merchants, petrol station owners, generator owners, small factories, big companies, even pharmacists and doctors," said the shop owner who, out of frustration and fear, closed his store and is now trying to make a living as a taxi driver.
Where ISIS Gets Its Money. It occupies a triangle between northwestern Iraq, northeastern Syria and southeastern Turkey where generations of underworld financiers have mastered the art of selling on the black market, smuggling goods across borders and turning illicit money into the kind of benign currency foreign banks accept.
Reference: www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-18/where-isis-gets-its-money-how-it-endures-attacks-on-its-fin…
@james dixon
Oil, Extortion and Crime: Where ISIS Gets Its Money - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../oil-extortion-crime-where-isis-gets-its-money-n200991
Sep 11, 2014 · President Obama Lays Out ISIS Strategy. "The tax system was well-organized. They took money from small merchants, petrol station owners, generator owners, small factories, big companies, even pharmacists and doctors," said the shop owner who, out of frustration and fear, closed his store and is now trying to make a living as a taxi driver.
Where ISIS Gets Its Money. It occupies a triangle between northwestern Iraq, northeastern Syria and southeastern Turkey where generations of underworld financiers have mastered the art of selling on the black market, smuggling goods across borders and turning illicit money into the kind of benign currency foreign banks accept.
Reference: www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015-12-18/where-isis-gets-its-money-how-it-endures-attacks-on-its-fin…
- How the Islamic State makes its money - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/11/18/how-isis-makes-its-money
Jun 27, 2019 · The terrorist group mostly refines oil in small, mobile refineries, then ships it by truck to the Turkish border, where oil brokers and traders buy or barter for it.
- Iraqi forces retake key oil refinery from Isis | Financial ...
https://www.ft.com/content/7e2889f4-6f4e-11e4-b50f-00144feabdc0
Nov 19, 2014 · Iraqi forces retake key oil refinery from Isis. The refinery produced about 170,000 barrels a day of gasoline and other oil products, and supplied northern Iraq and Baghdad before it was shut down after Isis seized control of the area.- Author: Borzou Daragahi
- Syria oil map: the journey of a barrel of Isis oil
https://ig.ft.com/sites/2015/isis-oil
How the Isis oil economy works, explained through the journey of a barrel of oil in Syria. Follow the journey of a barrel of oil from the oilfield to refinery and markets to see how the Isis production system works, who is making money from it, and why it is proving so challenging to disrupt
- CIDOB - How Long Will ISIS Last Economically?
https://www.cidob.org/.../notes_internacionals/n1_98/how_long_will_isis_last_economically
Before the recent air raids of the US and its allies on bootleg refineries and oil sites, ISIS oil production from the Syrian fields was about 50,000 barrels per …
- ISIS Oil Revenue: Islamic State Makes Money By Selling Gas ...
https://www.ibtimes.com/isis-oil-revenue-islamic-state-makes-money-selling-gas-bashar...
ISIS Oil Revenue: Islamic State Makes Money By Selling Gas To Bashar Assad, New BBC2 Documentary Claims ... Fuel is processed inside a makeshift refinery …- Author: Howard Koplowitz
- Fuelling Isis Inc | Financial Times
https://www.ft.com/content/a1f923a6-9f48-11e3-a48e-00144feab7de
Dec 17, 2014 · In addition to nefarious ransom and extortion rings, Isis taps areas under its control for money, charging retail stores about $2 a month in taxes.
sooda
Veteran Member
Efraim Inbar | The Jerusalem Post
https://www.jpost.com/Author/Efraim-Inbar
Efraim Inbar. The author is president of the Jerusalem Institute for Strategic Studies (JISS), Israel’s new conservative security think tank. He is professor emeritus at Bar-Ilan University and a fellow at the Middle East Forum. Correcting Israeli policy towards America and American Jews.
https://www.jpost.com/Author/Efraim-Inbar
Efraim Inbar. The author is president of the Jerusalem Institute for Strategic Studies (JISS), Israel’s new conservative security think tank. He is professor emeritus at Bar-Ilan University and a fellow at the Middle East Forum. Correcting Israeli policy towards America and American Jews.