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Isis delighted with Trump's ban

idav

Being
Premium Member
Trumps policies will most certainly bolster more anti-US and anti-Christian sentiment. He thinks he is keeping the fight outside the US but I feel like banning does the opposite. What is this the holy wars!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I bet. What better way to make people feel more marginalized, pushed aside, powerless, and hated and win them over to your evil cause? If Trump knew anything about the IRA, he would know why this was such a stupid idea.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Yes of course, The media says it's so. Lets see now, the media has said. Putin loves Trump, the KKK loves Trump, ISIS loves Trump. But what they never say is America loves Trump, even though the election would prove they do, moreso than Hillary. Do you see a pattern?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Yes of course, The media says it's so. Lets see now, the media has said. Putin loves Trump, the KKK loves Trump, ISIS loves Trump. But what they never say is America loves Trump, even though the election would prove they do, moreso than Hillary. Do you see a pattern?
Isis hate the media too and try to control it, just like Russia and North Korea...Do you see a pattern?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's hard to argue the ban is anti-Muslim, since the majority of Muslim countries aren't included.
How poorly he handled it though is clear.
Even worse is his stated intention of moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
It effectively announces there'll be no 2 state solution. This inflames the situation without
giving us any political benefit. IMO it actually increases our risk of war & terrorism for
enacting what appears to be a personal whim. Not exactly "America first", eh.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's quite easy actually since the ban only targets Muslim-majority countries.
Is it possible that they happen to be the most likely to be at risk for having terrorists coming here?
There is indeed a problem with a violent radical segment of Islam, & this would mean that
some majority Muslim countries would pose a greater risk than countries like Tibet, Norway,
Peru, Switzerland, Lesotho, or Canuckistan. Note also the admin's claim that Saudi Arabia,
Indonesia, & many other Muslim countries are not included in the ban.

Btw, if you want to know how the risk levels are determined, I haven't a clue.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So they did not try to ban the internet, TV and radio in the towns they controlled?
Stopping people having access to the media has just the same aims as threatening reporters

What's that got to do with US media reporting ISIS loves Trump? We'll see how much they love him when their fingernails are being pulled off. Not that I think supporting torture is a good idea....
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
How many Iranians (or Shia in general) have been involved in jihadi terrorism against the West in the past 20 years?
I recall many claims of Iranian involvement in terrorism under the Obama administration.
But as I said, I can't explain the inclusions & exclusions.
I have no info on the new admin's reasoning.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Yes of course, The media says it's so. Lets see now, the media has said. Putin loves Trump, the KKK loves Trump, ISIS loves Trump. But what they never say is America loves Trump, even though the election would prove they do, moreso than Hillary. Do you see a pattern?

"even though the election would prove they do, moreso than Hillary. Do you see a pattern?"

I see a pattern of continued denial over the fact that Trump lost the popular vote, and Hillary beat him out by nearly 3 million votes.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
I recall many claims of Iranian involvement in terrorism under the Obama administration.
But as I said, I can't explain the inclusions & exclusions.
I have no info on the new admin's reasoning.

"I have no info on the new admin's reasoning."

The executive order was rushed, and skipped appropriate vetting. I am wondering if this is not more of result of Trump's inexperience and unwillingness to admit a mistake.

“It is clear from the confusion at our airports across the nation that President Trump’s executive order was not properly vetted. We are particularly concerned by reports that this order went into effect with little to no consultation with the Departments of State, Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security.

“Such a hasty process risks harmful results. We should not stop green-card holders from returning to the country they call home. We should not stop those who have served as interpreters for our military and diplomats from seeking refuge in the country they risked their lives to help. And we should not turn our backs on those refugees who have been shown through extensive vetting to pose no demonstrable threat to our nation, and who have suffered unspeakable horrors, most of them women and children.

“Ultimately, we fear this executive order will become a self-inflicted wound in the fight against terrorism. At this very moment, American troops are fighting side-by-side with our Iraqi partners to defeat ISIL. But this executive order bans Iraqi pilots from coming to military bases in Arizona to fight our common enemies. Our most important allies in the fight against ISIL are the vast majority of Muslims who reject its apocalyptic ideology of hatred. This executive order sends a signal, intended or not, that America does not want Muslims coming into our country. That is why we fear this executive order may do more to help terrorist recruitment than improve our security.”

STATEMENT BY SENATORS McCAIN & GRAHAM ON EXECUTIVE ORDER ON IMMIGRATION - Press Releases - United States Senator John McCain
 
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