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ISIS in Ferguson

Phil25

Active Member
Wouldn't it depend on context? You know, if you're at a protest of terrorism or what you're wearing, or other such things? You based your OP on the Daily Mail, attacked people for criticizing your source, and then are trying to backpedal.

Not attacked but criticized their criticism of my source.
No backpedaling, they guy could well have been supporting ISIS or could have done nothing at all. I am focusing more on whether he was supporting ISIS because as you might now, majority of the posters were focusing on that he was not supporting ISIS.
I based my OP on Daily Mail, but later posted links to The Washington Post and buzzfeed which discussed the same thing that Daily Mail discussed.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
Not attacked but criticized their criticism of my source.
No you attacked it and dismissed it.

No backpedaling, they guy could well have been supporting ISIS or could have done nothing at all. I am focusing more on whether he was supporting ISIS because as you might now, majority of the posters were focusing on that he was not supporting ISIS.
So you don't believe it, you're just arguing what others aren't? Bizarre.

I based my OP on Daily Mail, but later posted links to The Washington Post and buzzfeed which discussed the same thing that Daily Mail discussed.
None of which say, however, that ISIS is in Ferguson as your OP claims, nor really that ISIS is making any sort of concerted effort to convert radicals, just that some people are tweeting and taking advantage of the situation as propaganda. Had your OP stated that rather than all the quotes I listed previously we'd have a different conversation now.
 

Phil25

Active Member
No you attacked it and dismissed it.
Nope, Criticized them for their dismissal of my source


So you don't believe it, you're just arguing what others aren't? Bizarre.
I do believe in the possibility of that guy supporting ISIS but he could have nothing with ISIS. Another possibility.

None of which say, however, that ISIS is in Ferguson as your OP claims, nor really that ISIS is making any sort of concerted effort to convert radicals, just that some people are tweeting and taking advantage of the situation as propaganda. Had your OP stated that rather than all the quotes I listed previously we'd have a different conversation now.
The title could be misleading but the OP wasnt
The OP-
"ISIS is encouraging Ferguson protesters to convert to Islam and shockingly one of the protester was holding a sign that said, "ISIS is here".
No claim that ISIS was in Ferguson, just the fact that a guy was holding a sign that said "ISIS here" and ISIS is encouraging Ferguson protesters to convert to Islam.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I don't trust ANY news agency, they all only report from one angle, in my opinion. So none of them appears to be credible.

Actually, I agree. :) Structurally, the entire commercial news media model makes laziness, sloppiness and inaccuracy an endemic phenomenon throughout.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
Nope, Criticized them for their dismissal of my source
No actually, you criticized them for being liberal and presumed that their point about the Mail sucking was because they were Liberal and the Mail isn't. It sucks because it lacks journalistic integrity and is fear mongering.

I do believe in the possibility of that guy supporting ISIS but he could have nothing with ISIS. Another possibility.
And yet you stated throughout that the guy supported ISIS as a fact. Again, as I quoted.


The title could be misleading but the OP wasnt
So why write a misleading title?
The OP-
"ISIS is encouraging Ferguson protesters to convert to Islam and shockingly one of the protester was holding a sign that said, "ISIS is here".
Well more accurately some guys who support ISIS were tweeting at people to convert. That's like the lowest level of proselytizing I can think of. Also the sign said "ISIS here" not "ISIS is here" as you note later, so the facts were wrong, and the use of the word "shockingly" implies that you consider it a sign of support of ISIS as you clarify throughout the rest of the thread. Until now where you suddenly say "it's possible" instead of "it is."

No claim that ISIS was in Ferguson, just the fact that a guy was holding a sign that said "ISIS here" and ISIS is encouraging Ferguson protesters to convert to Islam.
And as noted, written in the most fear-mongering way, followed up by intellectual dishonesty - "You don't like the Mail because you're liberal" - and apparently arguing something you only now don't believe "He supports it." to your present case that "it's possible."

ISIS sucks. There's also nothing to worry about ISIS in relation to Ferguson. The most likely and most reasonable explanation is not that a guy protesting the death of a man shot by the police is advocating for ISIS because he was converted by a tweet.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
No you attacked it and dismissed it.


So you don't believe it, you're just arguing what others aren't? Bizarre.


None of which say, however, that ISIS is in Ferguson as your OP claims, nor really that ISIS is making any sort of concerted effort to convert radicals, just that some people are tweeting and taking advantage of the situation as propaganda. Had your OP stated that rather than all the quotes I listed previously we'd have a different conversation now.

OP title should be "Politically passionate people relate trending headlines to their cause on Twitter!"

What, really? I'm shocked :facepalm:
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
And you are assuming that the man wasnt supporting ISIS.

We aren't. It's obvious by the tone and context of the sign what was meant by it. I'm sorry you're so afraid of ISIS that you don't want to understand that. You clearly have a 'reds under the bed' mentality about this.
 
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