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ISIS: THE ENEMY OF ISLAM
- Thread starter Godobeyer
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what do you mean ? by fanaticism wears many masks ?
how most of the followers are reason of ISIS ?
my is the point :
how a group or individual of people make 1.7 billion guilty ? is not this kind of generalizing ?
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
I don't generalize anything. I said mostly its followers are reason for unwanted things. I did not say most of the muslims are reason of it.
Papoon
Active Member
I appreciate that you are posting material which demonstrates the disgust that good Muslim people feel for ISIS.
The western world's media has certainly made ISIS powerful. And so have the governments.
In the past, we have seen many examples of the creation of an enemy for the purpose of controlling populations.
This is manipulation which always seems to work, because the human animal is just that - animal.
To call us animal is not insulting. To consider it insulting is the lamentable worst outcome of religion - psychosis.
In fact, humans behave far worse than any of the other animals. The idea that we have a special unique connection to divinity is IMO psychosis. It is disconnection from our whole nature, and obsession with abstraction and imaginary states.
The powers of this world use that psychosis and disconnection like a whip.
The promise of paradise and of global Islam, is an appeal to the madness associated with this psychotic disconnection from nature.
The cure for fear is courage, the cure for sadness is joy - and the cure for this psychotic disconnection with its hallucinations of pious purity is to humbly recognise the dignity of the animal, and accept what we are.
And here is the irony - those who most strongly deny we are animals behave like rabid dogs. Such as ISIS.
The western world's media has certainly made ISIS powerful. And so have the governments.
In the past, we have seen many examples of the creation of an enemy for the purpose of controlling populations.
This is manipulation which always seems to work, because the human animal is just that - animal.
To call us animal is not insulting. To consider it insulting is the lamentable worst outcome of religion - psychosis.
In fact, humans behave far worse than any of the other animals. The idea that we have a special unique connection to divinity is IMO psychosis. It is disconnection from our whole nature, and obsession with abstraction and imaginary states.
The powers of this world use that psychosis and disconnection like a whip.
The promise of paradise and of global Islam, is an appeal to the madness associated with this psychotic disconnection from nature.
The cure for fear is courage, the cure for sadness is joy - and the cure for this psychotic disconnection with its hallucinations of pious purity is to humbly recognise the dignity of the animal, and accept what we are.
And here is the irony - those who most strongly deny we are animals behave like rabid dogs. Such as ISIS.
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it's still generalizing , you said "mostly it's followers " , you did said "mostly of some followers"
is not "it's followers" is could mention to me and all others too ?
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
I insist on saying mostly of its followers are reason as ISIS members are 100 % muslim. I have not seen an non muslim ISIS member .
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
If I was a Muslim I would want ISIS squashed because they are a huge embarrassment. Why can't 1.7 billion Muslims squash a few thousand jihadists, militarily and ideologically?
Or is there in fact more widespread support for the fundamentalists than people want to admit?
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who told you that we did not fighting them ? ,who fighting them on the ground in Syria and Iraq ?
who fought them in Algeria before and everywhere ?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
I'm still puzzled as to why 1.7 billion people can't get rid of a few thousand extremists in their midst.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
Because they are too busy to find out which sect is the infidel. Once it is found out,inshallah they will fight with ISIS.
Papoon
Active Member
They are a paramilitary, with secret financiers and possibly the covert assistance of intelligence organisations.
How do ordinary folk get a handle on that ?
What do you suggest ?
Papoon
Active Member
Look at the situation with the Kurdish women's army, recruited from ordinary village women. Not only do they receive no support, but governments label them terrorists !
So why don't people like yourself complain about that ? You should be supporting them. Do you ?
Papoon
Active Member
Of course it is generalising.
Exactly as the media and governments wish.
Such generalisers are unwitting stooges IMO.
MARCELLO
Transitioning from male to female
Sure media and governments are the scapegoats. You forgot to mention Israel. How come a problem inside Islam be left without accusing Israel ?
Papoon
Active Member
You want me to come across as antisemitic ?
I suppose that could be used to discredit my more general point.
So, no, I'm not taking the bait.
sorry if you meant this (not generalizing) , it's known that ISIS memebers are 100% Muslim , i mean you did not come with new
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Papoon
Active Member
Also, that is a kind of reification. What is Israel ? A stretch of ground ? Judaism ? The Mossad ? I am not such a simplistic thinker.