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Islam fights free speech
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kaoticprofit
Active Member
A useless argument.
Just annoys me that this out of date, bastardised translation is still in use. I love God's Name, I wish people would get it right.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
How sad .. satan will always deceive mankind.
You see the similarity .. you both have closed minds.
Almighty God will judge between us on the day of judgement. He accepts the deeds of whomsoever He wills.
Mankind is full of people who say that only 'such and such' will go to heaven .. Almighty God forgives whomsoever He wills
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
kaoticprofit
Active Member
How sad that you can't see what your religion does on an hourly basis...
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/france-priest-has-throat-slit-church-isis-claims-attack
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
My religion is a belief based on a prophet of Almighty God. The quran confirms the truth of the Bible.
Islam is the religion. Muslims are the people who believe Islam to be correct/truth.
I can see what Muslims are doing "on an hourly basis" .. but I can separate belief and what people are doing. You apparently cannot (or it suits you not to .. hmmm)
kaoticprofit
Active Member
UAE lists 82 groups as 'terror organizations'
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/inter...115-uae-lists-over-80-muslim-terrorist-groups
The groups designated by the UAE are as follows:
1- UAE’s Muslim Brotherhood called Al-Islah
2- UAE terrorist cells
3- Karama organization
4- Uma Parties in the Gulf and Arabian Peninsula
5- Al-Qaeda
6- Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)
7- Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
8- Yemen’s Ansar al-Sharia
9- Muslim Brotherhood, both the organization and movement
10- Al-Gamaa Al-Islamiyya in Egypt
11- Bait al-Maqdis group in Egypt
12- Ajnad Misr (Soldiers of Egypt group)
13- Majlis Shura Al-Mujahedin Fi Aknaf Bayt Al-Maqdis (Mujahidin Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem, or MSC)
14- Yemen’s Houthi movement
15- Hezbollah party in Saudi Arabia’s Hijaz
16- Hezbollah in the Gulf region
17- Al-Qaeda in Iran
18- Badr organization in Iraq
19- Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq, also known as the Khazali Network in Iraq
20- Fath al-Islam in Lebanon
21- Osbat Al-Ansar or Asbat an-Ansar (League of the Partisans) in Lebanon
22- Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
23- Ansar Al-Sharia in Libya
24- Ansar Al-Sharia in Tunisia
25- Al-Shabab in Somalia
26- Boko Haram in Nigeria
27- Al-Murabitoon brigade in Mali
28- Ansar Al-Din movement in Mali
29- Haqani network in Pakistan
30- Lashkar Taiba in Pakistan
31- Eastern Turkestan Islamic Movement headquartered in Pakistan
32- Mohammed Army in Pakistan
33- Mohammed Army in India
34- Indian mujahideen in India/Kashmir
35- The Caucasus Emirate by Chechen militants
36- Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
37- Abu Sayyaf Islamist group in the Philippines
38- Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
39- Alleanza Islamic d'Italia or Islamic Alliance in Italy
40- Islamic Association in Finland
41- Islamic Association in Norway
42- Islamic Relief Organization in the UK
43- The Cordoba Foundation in Britain
44- International Islamic Relief Organization belonging to the international Muslim Brotherhood
45- Taliban movement in Pakistan
46- Abu Thur al-Fiqari battalion in Syria
47- Al-Tawheed and Iman battalion in Syria
48- The Green Battalion or Al-Khadraa battalion in Syria
49- Al-Tawhid Brigade in Syria
50- Abu Bakr brigade in Syria
51- Talha bin Ubaidallah in Syria
52- Al-Sarim Al-Batar brigade in Syria
53- Abdullah bin Mubarak brigade in Syria
54- Convoys of Martyrs brigade in Syria
55- Abu Omar brigade in Syria
56- Ahrar Shumar or Free Shumars brigade in Syria
57- Hezbollah brigades in Iraq
58- Brigade of Abu Al-Fadl al-Abbas in Syria
59- Brigades of Al-Yom Al-Mawood (Destined Day in Iraq)
60- Battalion of Omar bin Yasir in Syria
61- Ansar Al-Islam group in Iraq
62- Nusra Front in Syira
63- Harakat Ahrar ash-Sham Al Islami (Islamic Movement of the Free Men of the Levant) in Syria
64- Jaish Al-Islam (Islam Army) in Palestine
65- Abdullah Azzam Brigades
66- Kanvaz in Belgrade, Serbia
67- The Muslim American Society (MAS)
68- Union of Muslim Scholars
69- Union of Islamic Organizations in Europe
70- Union of Islamic Organizations of France
71- Muslim Association of Britain (MAB)
72- Islamic Society of Germany
73- Islamic Society in Denmark
74- Islamic Society in Belgium
75- Sariyat Al-Jabal brigade in Syria
76- Al-Shahbaa brigade in Syria
77- Al-Qa’Qaa’ in Syria
78- Sufian Al-Thawri (Revolutionary Sufian brigade) in Syria
79- Abdulraham brigade in Syria
80- Omar bin Al-Khatab brigade in Syria
81- Al-Shayma brigade in Syria
82- Al-Haq brigade in Syria
http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/middle-east/51106-141115-uae-lists-over-80-muslim-terrorist-groups
Shad
Veteran Member
I wouldn't say it is a Muslim problem or even one for the religious in general. It is either a lack of education, confirmation bias and/or a mix of both. This is problem of society and humans in general. People hold all sorts of nonsensical views that become part of a large worldview which become next to impossible for anyone to challenge. I have a friend just like him but he believes in Ancient Aliens nonsense treating the show like gospel.
Shad
Veteran Member
Which was never a point I argued against nor a point you put forward. You are backpedalling from your specific "they knew about 9/11"
No. It was the fact that there was no specific target. The only option was to wait for new information or go full police state mode. The latter would have been hard to justify and maintain.
You talk to me in personal level !!!
It's like I am the only one had serious doubt about that !!
it's actually many people believe that way even Americans.
So we do believe something wrong happened.and all fault on CIA failure in 9/11.
Warning before two months is much time to stop the tragedy.
Augustus
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How many times do you think the CIA gives a warning of a potential attack and it doesn't end up in a terrorist attack though? You can't shut down the entire country every time you get a sense of an undefined threat.
Hindsight bias often makes it seem like the solution should have been 'obvious' prior to the fact.
In this case lots of individual pieces information are collated and collectively used to show how 'obvious' such an attack would be. It assumes that any individual had access to all pieces of information, that such true information could easily be separated from 'noise'.
Such systems are always imperfect, and all people can do is use failures as a learning tool to address structural, procedural and competency issues. At that time (I think) there was a serious backlog of intelligence due to the lack of Arabic translators for example, and inter-agency rivalry lead to failures in information sharing.
An analysis doesn't just look at the failings that resulted in an attack though, it should also look at failings that don't end in any attacks. This failing looks 'suspicious' to some people as they assume the CIA was highly efficient at all other times, yet there would have been hundreds of examples of exactly the same failings if you looked at the bigger picture. 99.9% of failures that don't end in a major terrorist attack are not ever made public though, and if they are they are not really newsworthy so no one knows about them.
If such an attack had been obvious before the fact then all sorts of people would have been predicting something similar.
The question is really why do problems occur in large intelligence bureaucracies, rather than why did they fail to identify this one specific attack.
Shad
Veteran Member
I am and always have. I just do not sugar-coat my posts for your sake.
There is no doubt that you are not the only one. You have two videos in which an individual and group believe in what you have put forward. However your evidence is lacking as your sources are unreliable and have no evidence supporting their claims
So what? People believe in a lot of things. This does not mean they or you are right due to a shared belief.
Your belief has not be justified.
The warning was not specific which you claimed it was. You are just ignoring uncomfortable facts like you own source refuting your claims. Keep backpedaling.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
I don't care if they list 10,000. I'm not looking at what mankind is doing .. I'm looking at what constitutes the truth about the universe and the nature of our souls.
YOU may base 'truth' on the behaviour of common people in the 21st century, but I do not!
I know only too well that the world is accelerating into turmoil, and I'm aware of the reasons why .. you can't see the wood for the trees .. or as I say, you have an agenda of blame.
Shame on you! You won't be satisfied until you are annihilated by "devils" .. they won't care WHAT you believe!
If believers can't respect each other, you should know that the old trick "divide and rule" is working just as satan wants.
Turn the other cheek is appropriate in peace-time, but I think that you'll find that "an eye for an eye" is what gained the victory for "the west" in the last world war.
2 month is long time of warning .
We can't ignore the big failure of CIA., yes I am not comfortable with that, without even using any sources.
We are talking about 2 months advanced warning. not two hours.
for that reason,I do blame CIA for that failure.
THIS is what that religion does:
Jihad Report
Sep 10, 2016 -
Sep 16, 2016
Attacks43
Killed191
Injured228
Suicide Blasts6
Countries14
In just ONE week.
ALL other religions COMBINED world wide:
ZERO.
Just sayin'.
Fair enough, what are some of the things that the Quran and the life of Muhammad lead you to believe?
Now, once you've made that list,let me ask you: How did you know to believe those messages, and not the messages that are the opposite?
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
That we may be but Benny Hinn is still the best comedy show ever.