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Islamic State group targets gays with brutal public killings

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
REYHANLI, Turkey (AP) — Before a crowd of men on a street in the Syrian city of Palmyra, the masked Islamic State group judge read out the sentence against the two men convicted of homosexuality: They would be thrown to their deaths from the roof of the nearby Wael Hotel.

He asked one of the men if he was satisfied with the sentence. Death, the judge told him, would help cleanse him of his sin.

"I'd prefer it if you shoot me in the head," 32-year-old Hawas Mallah replied helplessly. The second man, 21-year-old Mohammed Salameh, pleaded for a chance to repent, promising never to have sex with a man again, according to a witness among the onlookers that sunny July morning who gave The Associated Press a rare first-hand account.

"Take them and throw them off," the judge ordered. Other masked extremists tied the men's hands behind their backs and blindfolded them. They led them to the roof of the four-story hotel, according to the witness, who spoke in the Turkish city of Reyhanli on condition he be identified only by his first name, Omar, for fear of reprisals.

Notorious for their gruesome methods of killing, the Islamic State group reserves one of its most brutal for suspected homosexuals. Videos it has released show masked militants dangling men over the precipices of buildings by their legs to drop them head-first or tossing them over the edge. At least 36 men in Syria and Iraq have been killed by IS militants on charges of sodomy, according to the New York-based OutRight Action International, though its Middle East and North Africa coordinator, Hossein Alizadeh, said it was not possible to confirm the sexual orientation of the victims.

The fear of a horrific death among gay men under Islamic State rule is further compounded by their isolation in a deeply conservative society that largely shuns them.

Many Muslims consider homosexuality to be sinful. Gay men are haunted constantly by the possibility that someone, perhaps even a relative, will betray them to the militants — whether to curry favor with IS or simply out of hatred for their sexual orientation. Islamic State group fighters sometimes torture suspected homosexuals to reveal their friends' names and search their laptops and mobile phones. Even among IS opponents, gays find little sympathy. Some in the public who might be shocked by other IS atrocities say killings of gays is justified. Syrian rebel factions have killed or abused gays as well.

Rest of article here: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/03f8...ate-group-targets-gays-brutal-public-killings

This is simply heartbreaking. No human being should have to live in such fear and terror. Probably the saddest part is family rejecting them and possibly even betraying them to ISIS. How mentally deranged and devoid of basic compassion do you have to be in order to turn your child over to a group of horrific demons to be brutally murdered, just because they romantically like other men? Why does it even matter at all? How can you betray your flesh and blood like that?

I really don't understand humans sometimes.
 

Terese

Mangalam Pundarikakshah
Staff member
Premium Member
Humans can get incredibly violent when their opinions are not the majority.
 

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
REYHANLI, Turkey (AP) — Before a crowd of men on a street in the Syrian city of Palmyra, the masked Islamic State group judge read out the sentence against the two men convicted of homosexuality: They would be thrown to their deaths from the roof of the nearby Wael Hotel.

He asked one of the men if he was satisfied with the sentence. Death, the judge told him, would help cleanse him of his sin.
Somehow I don't remember the part of the Qur'an where it says to toss people off of hotels for being gay.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Once again, I truly understand why refugees HAVE to be welcome.
That an be true, but many bring their backward beliefs to those countries that welcome them, and try to change the very country that took them in, its happening here in Australia.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
That an be true, but many bring their backward beliefs to those countries that welcome them, and try to change the very country that took them in, its happening here in Australia.
Being a gay myself I am to sympathize with the other gay community in danger. And I don't think gays of ME or orient will bring anything backward to western culture.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Being a gay myself I am to sympathize with the other gay community in danger. And I don't think gays of ME or orient will bring anything backward to western culture.
Yes but that doesn't mean there isn't backward thinking coming into our countries, we cannot have this filth in our countries because it will grow like a cancer, these people need to be deported back where they came from.
 

MARCELLO

Transitioning from male to female
Sure, as long as they adhere to our values. Certain refugees should be given priority over others. LGBT, Christian and Yazidi refugees should be helped first, since they face the greatest danger.
What are your values,by the way? Meanwhile,I am ,and my hosting country is a member of European Union since some years.

What are our values that they seem not to match?
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Sending people back to a bunch of Islamic extremists to be murdered is just as bad as killing them ourselves.
You're type are the same who were spurring bull**** about Irish refugees in Canada, and Vietnamese refugees in both Canada and America.

Those situations passed without "filth" being transferred. We can do it again.

Western cultures are also islamaphobic enough to reject anything resembling Muslim culture in our country.
We have very little (if anything,) to worry about.
To be totally honest, I understand where he's coming from. My city has been flooded with East African and Nepalese immigrants thanks to the refugee orgs over the past decade. Many of those people do hate Americans. The last place I lived, all the Americans on the block were being replaced with African Muslims and Nepalese (because the landlords get tax breaks for it and so Americans get shoved out). It's rare that I've felt such visceral hatred as I did from the Nepalese. I could feel the hatred rolling off of them and I didn't do anything to those people. Plus, these people are getting their rent paid 3 months in advance by refugee orgs. They don't work and get free healthcare. They also have a high number of children. The African Muslims are also known to be having multiple wives, but they try to pass them off in different ways. They also have a very high birthrate. The women are treated pretty badly, too, much like livestock. (However, the women do love sporting designer purses that run in the $$$+ price range and they do drive their own cars (badly, I'll say; I was almost ran over by one recently.)).

I actually live right next to a couple from Sudan. The wife is 22 and the husband is 11 years older than her. She comes from a Christian family and he comes from a Muslim family. He comes from Darfur, which is where that genocide is occurring. She was recently pregnant with her 4th kid, but I think she lost it because they drink and do drugs (probably smoking crack, as well as weed) very heavily. Apparently he beat the crap out of her, too. They let their kids run around wild, with no guidance. They apparently don't work. We're paying their damn water bill but they hate us. We can hear the negative remarks they make about Americans and white people. They've destroyed the back yard and leave trash strewn around (it's a duplex so it's a shared yard). They also gave us a very bad roach infestation.

Meanwhile, millions of native-born Americans are falling into poverty, living in neighborhoods that are quickly spiraling downwards into third world status, people are getting kicked out of their homes because they can't afford to pay for them, unemployment is high and only getting worse, the economy in general is in the toilet, etc. There was just a local story of a young woman with children who is going to get kicked out of her house because the local housing authority made a mistake and they refuse fix it or listen to her pleas for lenience. Meanwhile, more and more "refugees" continue to spill in and take over neighborhoods, while effectively getting a free ride and free housing. My mom is turning 65 later this month. She worked all her life and we're living in a rundown dump that should be condemned. We were conned into it by *gasp* a black Tunisian Muslim. The owner - another black African Muslim - has pretty much abandoned this property. We're trying to get out, but there's no real help for people like us and there's a housing shortage in the city. She's also very sick with cancer and I'm disabled due to psychiatric issues as well as apparently being epileptic.

So please try to understand why some aren't happy with "our" (in quotation marks because the government really doesn't represent the common American) government flooding the nation with third worlders and rolling out the red carpet for them, when our own people are suffering and the country is close to collapsing. Yeah, some of us are a bit mad about this, but try to understand why some of us are mad before you judge.

Basically, you need to take care of your own people before you can try to help others. Otherwise, you're setting the stage for something very nasty. Mind you, there's also currently over 320 million people in this country. You do the math.
 
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dust1n

Zindīq
Just throwing it out there, but people in ISIS are, in fact, people, despite the fact we wish not to associate with to the extent we think they belong to a different species.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Just throwing it out there, but people in ISIS are, in fact, people, despite the fact we wish not to associate with to the extent we think they belong to a different species.
Yes, but they don't deserve our respect as such if they are doing these things of their free will.
 
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