Isn't it true that Artificial Selection(selective breeding) is more important than evolution.

[bobhikes]

Artificial selection has been around for over 2000 years and has lead to the production of Useful Animals, plants and bacteria. Romans actually used it for agriculture. The domesticated animals you know today have all been artificailly selected 1000's of years ago.

Evolution(natural selection) has only been known about since Darwin 1859 only a couple of hundred of years and is a detailed explanation of how things came about. Darwin even used Artificial selection to help prove his theory. Evolution can only be used to explain how things happened. For example most people that live in an area with mosquitoes that have maleria have genes that produce Sickle cell anemia. If you didn't test for maleria or test for the genes you would know nothing. If Sickle cell anemia wasn't deadly you probably wouldn't test for it.

Being that evolution only explains how known things happened how important is it? Would we have been able to better our use of artificial selection even without the knowledge of evolution? There is some data that seems to show we were getting better with artificial selection.

 

[connerb]

scientist like to talk about how the same kinds of birds in different places may have different beaks. they use this as a proof of evolution. but they are all still birds. evolution would be if a bird laid an egg and a dinosaur hatched from it. this has never been proven. in fact science teaches that life comes from a pre-existing life of the same kind

 

[linwood]

scientist like to talk about how the same kinds of birds in different places may have different beaks. they use this as a proof of evolution. but they are all still birds. evolution would be if a bird laid an egg and a dinosaur hatched from it. this has never been proven. in fact science teaches that life comes from a pre-existing life of the same kind

That`s priceless.
Thank you!!

 

[Twilight Hue]

That`s priceless.
Thank you!!

It is. Related to the topic due to an artificial introduction in to a given environment for study, I figure if these lizards were let go long enough for a couple of million years, there will certainly be new branches formed giving way to new species based on what is observed.
Lizards Undergo Rapid Evolution After Introduction To A New Home

For Connerb...

Lets go a bit before birds came on the scene. The Dinosauria
and Archaeopteryx - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not always been a bird as it still had obvious features belonging more to theropod dinosaurs but was well on its way in evolving and branching out into our feathered friends of today. This is regarded as a transitional species.

 

[Erebus]

I don't have a particularly in depth knowledge of evolution, but I think that as far as scientific breakthroughs go, it's pretty big. Exploring the manner in which diseases evolve for example can (and already has done) save many lives. With further investigation into it, who knows what might become possible?
I do agree though that artificial selection is also immeasurably useful.

 

[AntEmpire]

If you breed Russian foxes to be tame then the creatures begin to grow blue-ish fluffier fur, they begin to bark, and act more like a dog does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

 

[tumbleweed41]

Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.
And I would not say it is more important that natural selection, another aspect of biological evolution, it merely provides observably quicker results. And is normally guided by human intervention toward a certain goal.

 

[tumbleweed41]

scientist like to talk about how the same kinds of birds in different places may have different beaks. they use this as a proof of evolution. but they are all still birds. evolution would be if a bird laid an egg and a dinosaur hatched from it. this has never been proven. in fact science teaches that life comes from a pre-existing life of the same kind

Conner, for your information, if a bird laid an egg that hatched a dinosaur, biological evolution would be shown to be false.

You would be wise to understand biological evolution before you disparage it.

 

[gnomon]

Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.
And I would not say it is more important that natural selection, another aspect of biological evolution, it merely provides observably quicker results. And is normally guided by human intervention toward a certain goal.

Thank you.

Saved me from saying it.

But I have to build my post count.

 

[bobhikes]

Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.
And I would not say it is more important that natural selection, another aspect of biological evolution, it merely provides observably quicker results. And is normally guided by human intervention toward a certain goal.

I always thought so too, but several evolutionists on this forum and actually when I reveiwed it in the scientific community don't agree.

However, Selective breeding has been around by some estimates for animals between 10,000 and 40,000 BC for agriculture around 9000 bc. The first vacination was developed in 1796 for small pox before evolutional theory. Vaccines are a form of selective breeding. Louis Pasteur(1822-1895) a scientist that greatly advanced vaccinations and germ theory was an opponent of theory of evolution.

I am not an opponent of evolution but I believe its importance is greatly exaggerated.

 

[McBell]

scientist like to talk about how the same kinds of birds in different places may have different beaks. they use this as a proof of evolution. but they are all still birds. evolution would be if a bird laid an egg and a dinosaur hatched from it. this has never been proven. in fact science teaches that life comes from a pre-existing life of the same kind

Kirk?
Kirk Cameron?
Is that you?

 

[ellenjanuary]

I didn't know that Bob was a Bene Gesserit witch.

 

[Valjean]

Selective breeding is just another manufacturing process, making commodities for our own use. It does not contribute to the web of life that makes this planet habitable. It was four billion years of evolution that created the intricate, interdependent living film we depend on.

 

[bobhikes]

I didn't know that Bob was a Bene Gesserit witch.

I like that definition! But lets not tell anyone OK.)(