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Israel has the green light to hit Iran nuclear sites

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hello all.
Peace be upon you all.

Gaza genocide and iran/Israel, shows how much the Western world is double stranded!!!

When Russia took over Ukrainian nuclear site, all the world warning about not use this area as war zone, so pollution... Etc

But it's ok Israel hit Iran nuclear sites.

Trump who repeatly said USA must end USA involve wars,will end Russia Ukraine war in.and will end war in 24 hours, encourage Israel to attack iran,so be on war with Iran !!!
 
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Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
But it's ok Israel hit Iran nuclear sites.

It's rather hard to know how best to respond. As much as you love denigrating Israel, you must realize that what the world, or the U.S., or Israel, thinks is "ok" (whatever that might mean) is neither determined nor defined by some Trump comment.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Hello all.
Peace be upon you all.

Gaza genocide and iran/Israel, shows how much the Western world is double stranded!!!

When Russia took over Ukrainian nuclear site, all the world warning about not use this area as war zone, so pollution... Etc

But it's ok Israel hit Iran nuclear sites.

Trump who repeatly said USA must end USA involve wars,will end Russia Ukraine war in.and will end war in 24 hours, encourage Israel to attack iran,so be on war with Iran !!!
You might want to add to the thread title (false) or a question mark, given Trumpy isn't the president - yet - and hopefully never, ever will be again. So why listen to this sad old liar.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's rather hard to know how best to respond. As much as you love denigrating Israel,
As regime yes , I dislike Israel ,and you knew why.
I have no problem with normal Jews peaceful .I have problem with extremists jews and Israel regime.

you must realize that what the world, or the U.S., or Israel, thinks is "ok" (whatever that might mean) is neither determined nor defined by some Trump comment.
I believe USA has responsibilty to maintenance situation (if they want) not make it worst,
by forcing all for table of negotiation ,for justice real peace.
But it's seem USA don't have any control on Israel.it's inverse.despite billions of dollars and weapons of support.

I think Israel lost it's opportunity to live peace in region especially with Palestinian and Lebanon and Iran and Yeman.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
I have no problem with normal Jews peaceful .I have problem with extremists jews and Israel regime.

I believe that is true. I also believe that many, if not the overwhelming majority of Jews massacred on October 7th were peaceful, and that many were notable for their involvement in the peace movement.

I believe USA has responsibilty to maintenance situation (if they want) not make it worst,
by forcing all for table of negotiation ,for justice real peace.

How, precisely, would the USA force leaders to the negotiating table, much less force the character of the outcome?

I think Israel lost it's opportunity to live peace in region ...

How would you propose that Israel be forced to live or, more likely, forced to leave? What role should the USA have in effectively exerting such force?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It's rather hard to know how best to respond. As much as you love denigrating Israel....
Always with the personal attack.
Have you ever tried a neutral post
when disagreeing about something?
It works wonders sometimes.
l, you must realize that what the world, or the U.S., or Israel, thinks is "ok" (whatever that might mean) is neither determined nor defined by some Trump comment.
It could very well be determined by Trump
comments if he wins. He aborted an attack
on Iran while in office (cooler heads talked
him out of it).
So while it's not an official green light at the
moment, consider the risk of possible portent.
His post has merit.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
As regime yes , I dislike Israel ,and you knew why.
I have no problem with normal Jews peaceful .I have problem with extremists jews and Israel regime.


I believe USA has responsibilty to maintenance situation (if they want) not make it worst,
by forcing all for table of negotiation ,for justice real peace.
But it's seem USA don't have any control on Israel.it's inverse.despite billions of dollars and weapons of support.

I think Israel lost it's opportunity to live peace in region especially with Palestinian and Lebanon and Iran and Yeman.
There'll certainly be no peace & security if Trump wins.
But there's some hope that the situation could improve
if Harris wins.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
There'll certainly be no peace & security if Trump wins.
But there's some hope that the situation could improve
if Harris wins.
Yeah sure the president with no wars will do worse than a president who was already involved in several wars.

Nice logic.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah sure the president with no wars will do worse than a president who was already involved in several wars.

Nice logic.
Are you not aware that Harris has never been President?
And that Trump violated his campaign promises to end
the war in Afghanistan? He didn't. Biden did.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Are you not aware that Harris has never been President?
And that Trump violated his campaign promises to end
the war in Afghanistan? He didn't. Biden did.
Oh yeah great job getting our servicemen killed, citizens abandoned, millions of dollars of military equipment just handed over , and the Taliban now saying they're going to stone women.


Yeah great wonderful accomplishment I'm sure you are very proud of him.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
.How, precisely, would the USA force leaders to the negotiating table, much less force the character of the outcome?



How would you propose that Israel be forced to live or, more likely, forced to leave? What role should the USA have in effectively exerting such force?

That's completely trivial on this case. All it would take is for Biden to say something like this to Netanyahu, in public: If you don't stop this madness, I will do everything in my power to cease supporting Israel from now on. This includes both no longer providing resources and no longer coming to Israel's aid, to defend it, in a time of need.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Oh yeah great job getting our servicemen killed, citizens abandoned, millions of dollars of military equipment just handed over , and the Taliban now saying they're going to stone women.
Your posts are sounding very left wing now.
How long would you plan on nation building in
Afghanistan until its people & government wouldn't
be vulnerable to the Taliban or other group?
Another 10 years? 20 years?
How many more trillions of dollars do you think
are worth spent to save Afghanistan from Islamic
oppression? Are you certain it will happen?
Yeah great wonderful accomplishment I'm sure you are very proud of him.
I loathe Biden. But I give him credit for abandoning
a hideously expensive failed attempt at renovating a
Muslim country in the image of a western democracy.

Some countries are **** holes. It's not worth my tax
money to attempt to fix all of them....or any of them.
We should use the money here.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I believe that is true. I also believe that many, if not the overwhelming majority of Jews massacred on October 7th were peaceful, and that many were notable for their involvement in the peace movement.
Is problem began on 7 oct ? or Hamas had their own reasons to kidneped.
in commun sense ,Settlers are not innocents ,because they are occupation a land don't belong to them,they took it by force.

Israelis gather on hillsides to watch and cheer as military drops bombs on Gaza​

This article is more than 10 years old
People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive

How, precisely, would the USA force leaders to the negotiating table, much less force the character of the outcome?
USA has the key, but the key is stolen by Israeli leaders.
Netanyaho don't listen to USA ,despite billion goes to Israel.

How would you propose that Israel be forced to live or, more likely, forced to leave? What role should the USA have in effectively exerting such force?
There many solutions.
USA and West on general always fought criminals and extermists ,so change their regimes by force or oppression, why not Israel leaders put on list ?

Or Israel people kick out their extremists leaders , choose someone could made a real justice peace .

Or
Probably another big war in region ,probably with Iran , will make Israel made peace.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Is problem began on 7 oct ? or Hamas had their own reasons to kidneped.
in commun sense ,Settlers are not innocents ,because they are occupation a land don't belong to them,they took it by force.

Israelis gather on hillsides to watch and cheer as military drops bombs on Gaza​

This article is more than 10 years old
People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive


USA has the key, but the key is stolen by Israeli leaders.
Netanyaho don't listen to USA ,despite billion goes to Israel.


There many solutions.
USA and West on general always fought criminals and extermists ,so change their regimes by force or oppression, why not Israel leaders put on list ?

Or Israel people kick out their extremists leaders , choose someone could made a real justice peace .

Or
Probably another big war in region ,probably with Iran , will make Israel made peace.
What on Earth was Harris saying?
It appeared to be nothing at all.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That's completely trivial on this case. All it would take is for Biden to say something like this to Netanyahu, in public: If you don't stop this madness, I will do everything in my power to cease supporting Israel from now on. This includes both no longer providing resources and no longer coming to Israel's aid, to defend it, in a time of need.
It should be completely the opposite that we will support Israel and any decision they make including hitting Iran's nuclear sites.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
What on Earth was Harris saying?
It appeared to be nothing at all.
She skipped to answser , when Journalist said Netanyaho not listening to USA.
Monday, on a 60 Minutes election special, Bill Whitaker asks Vice President Kamala Harris if the U.S. lacks influence over American ally Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That's completely trivial on this case. All it would take is for Biden to say something like this to Netanyahu, in public: If you don't stop this madness, I will do everything in my power to cease supporting Israel from now on. This includes both no longer providing resources and no longer coming to Israel's aid, to defend it, in a time of need.
Here the question, Why USA should support a regime, don't obey it's orders ,and against it's values ?!!
Is USA responsible for what all Israel did,and needs ,are most of Americans agree with their money goes to help Israel for commit the genocide and being tyranny regime in midlle of Arab/Muslim region ?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Here the question, Why USA should support a regime, don't obey it's orders ,and against it's values ?!!
Is USA responsible for what all Israel did,and needs ,are most of Americans agree with their money goes to help Israel for commit the genocide and being tyranny regime in midlle of Arab/Muslim region ?
The problem I see is that values of most US leaders & voters
are based upon whom they like, & whom they hate (or devalue).
So genocide is wrong if Jews are the victims, but not if Muslims
are victims when attacked by Israel.
In short....US values aren't universal for all humans.
 
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Regiomontanus

Eastern Orthodox
Hello all.
Peace be upon you all.

Gaza genocide and iran/Israel, shows how much the Western world is double stranded!!!

When Russia took over Ukrainian nuclear site, all the world warning about not use this area as war zone, so pollution... Etc

But it's ok Israel hit Iran nuclear sites.

Trump who repeatly said USA must end USA involve wars,will end Russia Ukraine war in.and will end war in 24 hours, encourage Israel to attack iran,so be on war with Iran !!!

God help us.
 
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