Israeli police shoot to kill a Palestin woman too close

[Godobeyer]

The level of violence in Israeli and Palestine is far greater than anything I see or hear about in Canada. Your example is a war.. So if you are saying these events are also a war then you must acknowledge that Palestine lost or is losing and deal with it.

anyway you can't deny . that the Western killed each other more than Muslims killed each other in whole history .

so Jews must killed all Palestinians or all Muslims to deal , and i suppose that your wish , because racist and hate .

1:32/33 you can see the handle. The motion of the knife due to her failing carried the knife to the point at 1:35. Like I said it is called physics and motion. Look it up.

I suppose you talking about other video .

in 1.32 you can see they shoot her and she fall on the ground .

 

[Flankerl]

What probably happened
After she was shot and fell to the ground the knife landed close to her head, of which we might actually see the grip because Humans usually don't have long black sticks coming out of their heads. At least not where I live.
Then a cut which is really normal in crappy CCTV cameras. Now we see a knife, what might have happened?
Well she was still alive and you don't leave a weapon close to someone who quite recently still had this weapon. So you move it a bit away, out of reach.

But now we come to this.

What the Arab/Muslim world thinks happened
After this proud Palestinian Muslima was shot by Zionist Terror Commandos they placed a kitchen knife which all Zionist Commandos always have for situations like this close to her because they knew that this camera was recording. It was all a plan to make the proud Palestinian people seem like evil terrorists which is of course ridiculous because the Zionists are the terrorists.

 

[Godobeyer]

What probably happened
After she was shot and fell to the ground the knife landed close to her head, of which we might actually see the grip because Humans usually don't have long black sticks coming out of their heads. At least not where I live.
Then a cut which is really normal in crappy CCTV cameras. Now we see a knife, what might have happened?
Well she was still alive and you don't leave a weapon close to someone who quite recently still had this weapon. So you move it a bit away, out of reach.

we had two videos a weapon put next to her head and weapon moved from her leg , what is the real one ?

 

[Shad]

anyway you can't deny . that the Western killed each other more than Muslims killed each other in whole history .

Irrelevant red herring. We are talking about a specific case. You want to expand this to a world scope since your whole argument for this case has exploded in your ideological driven face. Also you are making an assumption. You never showed any numbers of Muslim on Muslim violence, which is on the rise, to show a comparison.

so Jews must killed all Palestinians or all Muslims to deal , and i suppose that your wish , because racist and hate .

Reading comprehension, get some. You made the comparison to a war hence the conflict in question must also be a war otherwise there is no comparison. If this conflict is a continuing war you can not whine about people being killed on either side since it is a war and it happens. If the conflict is a war you must acknowledge Israeli has been winning it for decades. You must acknowledge the occupation as necessary and is no grounds for any sort of appeal about regarding crimes until the war has been concluded. Since there is no peace treaty there are no grounds for appeals to other nations, the UN, etc. You must also acknoweldge that the Palestinian population is an population which is now considered conquered thus is fully subjected to Israeli laws and actions.

For the record I do not think Israeli should be part of the UN, an acknowledged nation nor be funded by other nations. You charges of racism and hate is a typical response when one's argument have zero merit. It is a cop out, nothing more. More so Palestinians are not a race. Muslims are not a race. Look up the term you are using and try again son.

I suppose you talking about other video .

in 1.32 you can see they shoot her and she fall on the ground .

I can see the knife handle above her head. Try again son, maybe get glasses as it seems you need a pair.

 

[Shad]

we had two videos a weapon put next to her head and weapon moved from her leg , what is the real one ?

No, we have one weapon in different spots. You are making an assumption again. Beside she had a knife before she was shot making your point irrelevant.

 

[mohammadshiamuslim]

Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.

Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.

6-7 - Al-Baqarah

 

[Godobeyer]

Irrelevant red herring. We are talking about a specific case. You want to expand this to a world scope since your whole argument for this case has exploded in your ideological driven face. Also you are making an assumption. You never showed any numbers of Muslim on Muslim violence, which is on the rise, to show a comparison.



Reading comprehension, get some. You made the comparison to a war hence the conflict in question must also be a war otherwise there is no comparison. If this conflict is a continuing war you can not whine about people being killed on either side since it is a war and it happens. If the conflict is a war you must acknowledge Israeli has been winning it for decades. You must acknowledge the occupation as necessary and is no grounds for any sort of appeal about regarding crimes until the war has been concluded. Since there is no peace treaty there are no grounds for appeals to other nations, the UN, etc. You must also acknoweldge that the Palestinian population is an population which is now considered conquered thus is fully subjected to Israeli laws and actions.

For the record I do not think Israeli should be part of the UN, an acknowledged nation nor be funded by other nations. You charges of racism and hate is a typical response when one's argument have zero merit. It is a cop out, nothing more. More so Palestinians are not a race. Muslims are not a race. Look up the term you are using and try again son.








I can see the knife handle above her head. Try again son, maybe get glasses as it seems you need a pair.

ah because if we compare between how many Westerners killed by Westerns in WW2 and Muslims killed Muslims , you may lose ?

how about you care about your eyes too, i am instead of you i will check my eyes ?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I'm not a big fan of Klan justice. It is, in my opinion, little better than terrorism.

And this is where such vitriol leads. See, also, Israeli Police to investigate Be'er Sheva lynch mob.

 

[Godobeyer]

And this is where such vitriol leads. See, also, Israeli Police to investigate Be'er Sheva lynch mob.

so Ethopian and dark skin , latine , and Jews whom looks like Arabs , take addition caution these days in Israel !

this is evidence that innocents (Arabs or Jews) could be accused by some idiot Jews , and humilated like there is no law .

I am with justice and punish anyone make crime (Israeli (Arabs or Jews) , soldier or civilian)

 

[dantech]

And this is where such vitriol leads. See, also, Israeli Police to investigate Be'er Sheva lynch mob.

Yes and no... It's more complicated than just seeing it as an attack by Jews on a man who looked like an Arab. (Not that I condone the attack whatsoever...)

 

[rosends]

Yes and no... It's more complicated than just seeing it as an attack by Jews on a man who looked like an Arab. (Not that I condone the attack whatsoever...)

http://www.maariv.co.il/HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=327299&h=530&w=758

 

[Juhurka]

As it turns out this terrorist is actually alive and was not killed (very unfortunately). The hypocrisy of the OP is absurd. Instead of saying that this lady was wrong for trying to murder Jews this biased arab is complaining that Jews shot an arab who attempted to kill jews. Unfortunate reality is that arabs understand only force and should always be treated this way, a hand of peace by arabs is considered as weakness and fear, they only understand force. Just look at the arab spring.

 

[Shad]

ah because if we compare between how many Westerners killed by Westerns in WW2 and Muslims killed Muslims , you may lose ?

No because it is irrelevant to the case in hand in this thread. Also the number you put forward also include non-Western deaths like the Chinese, Japanese, Colonial forces made up of Muslims and Hindus from India, Egypt, Southeast Asia. All you have demonstrate is you see a big number and make assumptions with zero research. China lost 15-20 million so already almost 1/3 of your 60 million are not Western. 2 million deaths in French Indochina. Almost 2 million deaths from British India. Almost 4 million Japanese. You are also obvious to Russia tactics in which troops were cannon fodders due to the human wave doctrine in which high casualties were due to the tactics. Look up Stalingrad to find just how the tactic works and the results. All you have demonstrated is your lack of education and research skills.

how about you care about your eyes too, i am instead of you i will check my eyes ?

No need as I am not the one that is blind to a knife in her hand nor putting forward tin foil hat conspiracy theories in order to create a victim out of a criminal.

 

[Godobeyer]

No because it is irrelevant to the case in hand in this thread. Also the number you put forward also include non-Western deaths like the Chinese, Japanese, Colonial forces made up of Muslims and Hindus from India, Egypt, Southeast Asia. All you have demonstrate is you see a big number and make assumptions with zero research. China lost 15-20 million so already almost 1/3 of your 60 million are not Western. 2 million deaths in French Indochina. Almost 2 million deaths from British India. Almost 4 million Japanese. You are also obvious to Russia tactics in which troops were cannon fodders due to the human wave doctrine in which high casualties were due to the tactics. Look up Stalingrad to find just how the tactic works and the results. All you have demonstrated is your lack of education and research skills.

Whatever the Westerns killed each other and killed the others , more than Muslim killed each other and others .

so we are passed the same way

and West involving in burning up Syria and Libya and Iraq ,for claim brining the democraty !!

No need as I am not the one that is blind to a knife in her hand nor putting forward tin foil hat conspiracy theories in order to create a victim out of a criminal.

I am still convince that you should check doctor of eyes

 

[Shad]

Whatever the Westerns killed each other and killed the others , more than Muslim killed each other and others .

Empty claim, dismissed as such. You provide zero work supporting your view.

and West involving in burning up Syria and Libya and Iraq ,for claim brining the democraty !!

Muslims were killing Muslims in Syria before the West became involved. Muslims are killing Muslims in Libya long before the West became involved and long after it left said involvement.

I am still convince that you should check doctor of eyes

Sure you do that while ignoring the giants log, ideological bias, in your own which you continue to confirm by blaming the West for Muslims problems. Time to put your big boy pants on and accept the fact that Muslims can be just as insane and violent as everyone else.

 

[Godobeyer]

Empty claim, dismissed as such. You provide zero work supporting your view.

What claim ?

who can support his dirty history except the wise and fair people ?

Muslims were killing Muslims in Syria before the West became involved. Muslims are killing Muslims in Libya long before the West became involved and long after it left said involvement.

So you deny that West support rebels in Syria ?

yeah West just burned it up in Syria and Libya and Iraq , and see the result .
Now Russia come to fix it what West and kings of oil did in Syria

Sure you do that while ignoring the giants log, ideological bias, in your own which you continue to confirm by blaming the West for Muslims problems. Time to put your big boy pants on and accept the fact that Muslims can be just as insane and violent as everyone else.

lol

I don't blame West in every things , i blame for involving in Iraq and Syria and Libya and supporting Alqaeda to fight Soviet Union , and let the group of Alqaeda to acces to USA , then trained to polite planes then suicide in 9/11

in same time i admire their stand with Syrian and Iraqi refugees

 

[Shad]

What claim ?

who can support his dirty history except the wise and fair people ?

You are the last person I would consider wise nor fair given the tin foil hat nonsense you put forward in this thread.

So you deny that West support rebels in Syria ?

Nope. However unlike you I accept the fact that individuals make the choice to fire these weapons at people. The West doesn't force these people to do anything. The West does not convert Muslims to the radical form of Islam followed by IS. The West does not ship these convert from all over the world to Syria. You seem obvious to the fact that the West has little influence on these choices made by individuals. You seem oblivious to the fact that Iran, Qatar, KSA, Jordan, Turkey and the Arab League itself have armed and support rebels. Heck Algeria oppsed helping rebels and supported the dictator...

yeah West just burned it up in Syria and Libya and Iraq , and see the result .
Now Russia come to fix it what West and kings of oil did in Syria

Muslim radicals burned up Syria long before the West became involved. .

I don't blame West in every things , i blame for involving in Iraq and Syria and Libya and supporting Alqaeda to fight Soviet Union , and let the group of Alqaeda to acces to USA , then trained to polite planes then suicide in 9/11

It is a trend you show as you routinely blame the West for Muslim nations problems. Iraq's sectarian violence is 1. Political and 2 Religious. The West didn't create Islam it only removed a dictator which happened to keep violent groups at bay by oppressing everyone. The same dictator it supported against Iran. Syria's issues are not the West's problem nor fault. See above. The USA didn't train the 9/11 pilots, a commercial business did that. These pilots certainly did not fill out in their application "Intends to pilot planes into buildings" As I said you blame the West for problems going as far as to see tin foil hat nonsense in anything which make Muslims look bad.

in same time i admire their stand with Syrian and Iraqi refugees

Ah so as long as the West helps refugees but let just ignore the source and issue which is creating refugees. You are very naive. You are worried about the water coming out of a broken pipe but ignore the pipe. Have fun with your bucket of water.

 

[Godobeyer]

You are the last person I would consider wise nor fair given the tin foil hat nonsense you put forward in this thread.

same feeling lol or maybe more

Nope. However unlike you I accept the fact that individuals make the choice to fire these weapons at people. The West doesn't force these people to do anything. The West does not convert Muslims to the radical form of Islam followed by IS. The West does not ship these convert from all over the world to Syria. You seem obvious to the fact that the West has little influence on these choices made by individuals. You seem oblivious to the fact that Iran, Qatar, KSA, Jordan, Turkey and the Arab League itself have armed and support rebels. Heck Algeria oppsed helping rebels and supported the dictator...

West helped the condition to becomes worst , so the extremist Muslims are comes from civil war , so war is actuatly great producer of terrorists .

Muslim radicals burned up Syria long before the West became involved. .

no West support the Muslim radicals by weapons and by let them travel to Syria .

the West claim helping rebels but in reality it's helped ISIS .

It is a trend you show as you routinely blame the West for Muslim nations problems. Iraq's sectarian violence is 1. Political and 2 Religious. The West didn't create Islam it only removed a dictator which happened to keep violent groups at bay by oppressing everyone. The same dictator it supported against Iran. Syria's issues are not the West's problem nor fault. See above. The USA didn't train the 9/11 pilots, a commercial business did that. These pilots certainly did not fill out in their application "Intends to pilot planes into buildings" As I said you blame the West for problems going as far as to see tin foil hat nonsense in anything which make Muslims look bad.

that's very known that 9/11 is make up , and its CIA fault .

Ah so as long as the West helps refugees but let just ignore the source and issue which is creating refugees. You are very naive. You are worried about the water coming out of a broken pipe but ignore the pipe. Have fun with your bucket of water.

maybe you ignore that fire in woods could be more by put the gas in , instead of put of water ?

 

[Shad]

same feeling lol or maybe more

Then you are delusional as my videos show the knife you said didn't exist and was planted.

West helped the condition to becomes worst , so the extremist Muslims are comes from civil war , so war is actuatly great producer of terrorists .

Nope. The conditions were already horrible before the West did anything. Yes war can produce terrorists and acts of terror as can religions taken to extremes. Remember that IS is not acting according to a war manuals but a religious manual.

no West support the Muslim radicals by weapons and by let them travel to Syria .

No the West attempted to aid the FSA which lost. As did the Muslim nations I mentioned which also shipped arms to various groups

the West claim helping rebels but in reality it's helped ISIS .

Nope. The ideological rhetoric of the "Blame the West brigade" helps far more than any actions the West has done. Let us not forgot that religious is by far the prime motivator for IS not the West

that's very known that 9/11 is make up , and its CIA fault .

Tin foil hat nonsense I was talking about. Your source is also funded and ran by the Russia government with a well known bias. Again using dubious sources. You might as well start linking Soviet era propaganda as it amounts to the same thing. Go look up the woman used as a source. First off she was judge to have mental issues including a history of delusion. Now she claims she is an expert in several fields none of which she has an certified education as evidence showing her views are credible. To put it simply you used a person with known mental issues including delusion as your source..... Go read her book in which she claims to have psychically predicted 9/11. Go read the medical report on her in which she acknowledges she has psychic powers. She is more nutty than a Mr Big candy bar.

maybe you ignore that fire in woods could be more by put the gas in , instead of put of water ?

Irrelevant drivel using barely legible English which amounts to nothing.

 

[Godobeyer]

Then you are delusional as my videos show the knife you said didn't exist and was planted.

if you don't see that , i required to check doctor soon as possible .

Nope. The conditions were already horrible before the West did anything. Yes war can produce terrorists and acts of terror as can religions taken to extremes. Remember that IS is not acting according to a war manuals but a religious manual.

i disagree , the conditions were already bad ,before West involved , maybe i live here i can observe better than you .

I admire that you agree that "Yes war can produce terrorists "

ISIS does not represent all Muslims , so we fought and we fighting them , most of Muslims are with Russia in this step .

No the West attempted to aid the FSA which lost. As did the Muslim nations I mentioned which also shipped arms to various groups

Nope. The ideological rhetoric of the "Blame the West brigade" helps far more than any actions the West has done. Let us not forgot that religious is by far the prime motivator for IS not the West

lol
FSA , most of them are terrorists , i remember i post this thread before 3 years ago

http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/why-the-west-support-the-terrorism-in-syria.137136/

the West aid the rebels against Syria, just like aided Alqaeda against Soviet Union .

not all blame on West , i blame too Kings of Oil and Jordan and Turkey helping ISIS to grow .

Tin foil hat nonsense I was talking about. Your source is also funded and ran by the Russia government with a well known bias. Again using dubious sources. You might as well start linking Soviet era propaganda as it amounts to the same thing.

ok i find American source talked about it

The Bush White House Was Deaf to 9/11 Warnings - The

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=0

Irrelevant drivel using barely legible English which amounts to nothing.

ah it's ok that West burned up Muslims by involved in Syria and Iraq and libya !!!

so put the gas instead of water is good ?