Just a question, why does the Left here try to turn issues of Class into issues of race?
or sex. or gender. or hair color. really they turn every logical explainable issue into some Good and Evil argument/
things that that along with many other issues they always try to spin when the issue itself is not even an issue. it's just Class. the wealthy will always hold an advantage over the weak. thats capitalism that's nature.
it's like the right turns everything into an issue of religion or tradition. the left, issues of race and sex, together both form the most stupid self-centered group of possible insane asylum escape's I have ever seen.
thoughts?
What percentage of the left are you talking about here?
I really feel like "The Left" has become the notorious "THEY," rooted in paranoia and self-fulfilling prophecy, with little basis in fact.
We're not the monsters hiding under your bed. We're people with jobs and families and social lives like anyone else.
ITS ALL A DISTRACTION - they rather talk about these worthless personal issues than anything that results in an improvement in our living. I have better uses of my life than to talk about your preferred pronouns, identity, sexual partners, or whatever. You want to waste your time on these insignificant issues feel free, they help no one not even the people who live in these ways.
If you want it all to go away, write your congressman to stop proposing legislation that requires reasonable people to have to fight back against religiously motivated nonsense.
If legislation simple stops being proposed, then "Identity politics" as you call them, will fade away in your rear view mirror. I hate this fight as much as anybody. So let's fix it together, okay?
Talking about these things just means you ignore the bread and butter like jobs, money, economics, quality of living, etc... That's why the Dems crater in the elections... And, they're still cratering - they just decide to double down on the stupidity instead of evaluating what is wrong. It must be that they're not out of touch enough yet, well that's fine... I'll be laughing in the next clean sweep Presidential election and watch the Congress empty out as well as they do nothing get run over by the people that want to work for our money.
We can actually deal with more than one issue at a time. Protecting rights against terrible legislation does not mean we can't actually propose legislation of our own.
That said, you're right here. The Democratic Party has sold out economically a long time ago. Now, the left is center to center-right economically, and the right is bat-#$&t crazy proposing tax cuts that they have no plan to pay for. I would love an actual argument from a candidate that was actually economically liberal. . . Even if it isn't realistic, at least make that argument and argue for compromise. Instead, democrats start at the center, republicans start at the crazy far right, and guess what? All the actual policies are middle right wing economically. What a shock. . .
I do believe is does go a long way toward explaining your point that many with economic left leanings simply can't muster up the energy to vote. . No one of true liberal economic substance actually runs anymore. Too much money and too much compromise.
If only more on the left understood this, it would be getting somewhere. The Democrats are using "identity politics" as a substitute for talking about wider economic change, probably because they don't want to upset their donors. On healthcare, they may be addressing bread and butter issues, but otherwise I agree with you on this. there should be more important priorities for "the left" than a person's preferred pronouns or indulging the media's outrage culture.
I agree that wider economic change should be our focus. . . for most liberals, this is truly what we care about. It comes down to money, and Dems need a ton of it to run. The party compromised itself economically as a result. As we move forward, I am actually heartened by the social media's influence and Trump's election. Money mattered much less in the recent 2016 US election. He was badly outspent and still won. . . . There is a great lesson here for Dems if they choose to learn it.
I do disagree with the characterization that "the left" cares only about pronouns or outrage or whatever. That is a talking point as silly and unfounded as the liberal's supposed "War in Christmas". It's just another false characterization designed to motivate the other side against the "evil liberal".
