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Istanbul airport explosions

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Turkey involve their self into the war conflict . so killing civilians in war is normal is accepted.
That is generally understood not to be the case. The exceptions are far too numerous, but still exceptions and shameful.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Yes Turkey supports the Syrian people against Assad. But Turkey has never supported daesh. When they shot down the Russian jet, everyone started accusing Turkey of buying oil from daesh and the Prime Minister at the time, Ahmet Davutoglu challenged those who make those claims to provide proof and he would resign. Why didn't anyone provide proof??

If the man in the video is correct, then where is his evidence. Why didn't he show any evidence so Ahmet Davutoglu could resign?

And like I said before, you should stop watching American news about what Muslims do and don't do. We all know how 'truthful' they can be in their reporting.
Deash is born from Syrian rebels,and Jabhat Nusrah,and Alqaeda.

Let the terrorists across the borders to fighting Syrian army .

I believe most of Syrians people blaming rebels not Assad.

I blame most Muslims scholars whom get in silence about this fitnah.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Turkey involve their self into the war conflict . so killing civilians in war is normal is accepted.
killing innocents , is against teaching of prophet Muhammad (pbuh).


5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
Please check :
http://www.juancole.com/2013/04/islamic-forbids-terrorism.html
 

uncung

Member
For serious, man! We are talking about actual human lives here!

This is not a matter of simply learning to do better next time.
It is war. why do people react so emotionally yet every day the u.s, russia, iraq, iran, kill many civilians in irak, Afghanistan, Syria and islamic lands?
 

uncung

Member
killing innocents , is against teaching of prophet Muhammad (pbuh).


5. The killing of innocent non-combatants is forbidden. According to Sunni tradition, ‘Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, the first Caliph, gave these instructions to his armies: “I instruct you in ten matters: Do not kill women, children, the old, or the infirm; do not cut down fruit-bearing trees; do not destroy any town . . . ” (Malik’s Muwatta’, “Kitab al-Jihad.”)
Please check :
http://www.juancole.com/2013/04/islamic-forbids-terrorism.html
How a pity the Bomb hardly pin point the target, so in that such crowded area the victims could be from the mixing among innocent and un-innocent people.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It is war. why do people react so emotionally yet every day the u.s, russia, iraq, iran, kill many civilians in irak, Afghanistan, Syria and islamic lands?
I can't speak for others, but personally I very much disapprove of civilian killings anywhere. I am on record in these forums asking how one can find air bombings a good thing.

In any case, war is no excuse for killing civilians.
 

uncung

Member
I can't speak for others, but personally I very much disapprove of civilian killings anywhere. I am on record in these forums asking how one can find air bombings a good thing.

In any case, war is no excuse for killing civilians.
you are BIG LIAR. You react only when muslims commit killing toward others. You never react when your idol U.S. kill civillians everyday in Islamic lands.
 

uncung

Member
No problem, I understand your position.

It is very sad that you support a supposed "Khilafah" which is killing Muslims.
Killing muslims is not always the prohibited thing. Abu Bakar r.a. also kiled muslims, Ali r.a. also.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Killing muslims is not always the prohibited thing. Abu Bakar r.a. also kiled muslims, Ali r.a. also.

Abu Bakr and Ali killed Muslims. Which Muslims might that be.

I don't think you know anything about Abu Bakr. So saying he killed Muslims just makes you look very childish and ignorant. I assume you are talking about the apostasy wars, hence the word 'apostasy' not Muslim.
 

uncung

Member
Abu Bakr and Ali killed Muslims. Which Muslims might that be.

I don't think you know anything about Abu Bakr. So saying he killed Muslims just makes you look very childish and ignorant. I assume you are talking about the apostasy wars, hence the word 'apostasy' not Muslim.
After prophet passed away some muslims rejected to pay zakah, you know that story.
In siffin war Ali committed a war with muslims, yet they were the sahabah.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
you are BIG LIAR. You react only when muslims commit killing toward others. You never react when your idol U.S. kill civillians everyday in Islamic lands.
One of us is a liar, and I know who.

Waste my time no more, brother.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
How a pity the Bomb hardly pin point the target, so in that such crowded area the victims could be from the mixing among innocent and un-innocent people.
There is no justification in God orders.

especially about souls. killing innocents souls is one of major sins in Islam.

I know some idiot scholars made such crazy fatwas,but I follow what God and His prophet said.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
After prophet passed away some muslims rejected to pay zakah, you know that story.
In siffin war Ali committed a war with muslims, yet they were the sahabah.

I think I explained this, the key word is apostasy, which again you failed to understand, just as you've shown you don't know anything about the history of the Khulafah and their wars.

Brother, I advise you to learn what scholars say, not what you tell yourself is right or wrong. When you get sick you go to a doctor and when you want to speak about Islam go to the ulama.

Those who refused to pay zakah became kuffar. So Abu Bakr, radiallahu anhu, ordered the army to go and fight against them for becoming non-Muslim after they had become Muslims. Either they became Muslims again and pay zakah or they would be killed for becoming kuffar.

As for Ali, radiallahu anhu, when the Muslims have a leader, an Imam, then someone else who claims to be Imam must be killed, doesn't matter who they are including those who support them. It is like killing a Muslim who commits murder, yes he is a Muslim, but he committed something haram so he must be killed. But this is not the same as killing Muslims just because you feel like it or because you don't understand Islamic laws.
 

uncung

Member
There is no justification in God orders.

especially about souls. killing innocents souls is one of major sins in Islam.
blame the war, blame the turkey who involve in the war, who assist u.s. in killing muslims. we can say they deserve it.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
you are BIG LIAR. You react only when muslims commit killing toward others. You never react when your idol U.S. kill civillians everyday in Islamic lands.
Who told that he never react when US kill civilians ...etc ?
You are newbie,most of people here against US crimes.
 
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