It all adds up and i must say it gives me the chills

[Deeje]

the Jewish study i am making keeps surprising me every day.
I might say it is at times in debate with other religions and at times it is similar (interpretation wise).

there are some things that seem far from a lucky guess.

Only honest hearted people can see this.

I have a very honest question to Christians. do you accept the literal words of the Hebrew bible as stories that describe events or as a myth told to "better explain" the abilities god has?

The Hebrew Scriptures serve a very important purpose IMO. As one who has studied the Bible in depth for many years, we have to know why the Bible was written and why it's contents are for our benefit. The Hebrew portion of the Bible is a history of God's dealings with mankind.....how we got here....what our purpose is.....what God expects of us and what we can expect from him.

When humankind first stepped away from God, by abusing the gift of free will, it prompted God to address how to reinforce the importance of obedience in creatures who do not have omniscience. Only the Creator has that ability, which is why he asked humans to obey his one command in the garden. Telling them to obey him and implementing a severe penalty for not doing so, was obviously not enough.....Intelligent creatures learn far more effectively from what they experience than anything you tell them.

The major portion of the Hebrew writings are a history of God teaching the only people on earth who were born into a dedicated nation; what it means to follow his instructions and what happens when they don't. This was then to lay the groundwork for what was to follow....the appearance of his Messiah and the further teachings of God's last prophet.....the coming of his kingdom....and the fulfilment of all the prophesies recorded in the Hebrew scriptures as well as the Christian scriptures.

Context determines what is figurative and what is literal. And once you know what the big picture is, everything fits in its place like a hand in a glove.

There is a follow up question based on your answer

Waiting in anticipation......

 

[Segev Moran]

I tried addressing that in my second comment - "..and regarding literal etc - there is history, genealogy, poetry, prophecy and more. It just takes context to see what you are reading."

I Agree. But the question still remains, putting aside interpretations, do you believe the bible is the actual words of god? (where it says and god said) or do you think its a "simplified version" of what god said ?

I have to say here that i find many people interpolating the bible in a very bad way and it is usually as you said, due to not realizing the context.

 

[Segev Moran]

I thought I would get a question!

Lol, I promise you will

 

[1213]

An example from the Hebrew bible i meant

ok, I think same rule can be used also for it.

 

[74x12]

Can you elaborate?
I can't understand what you mean here.

There are things we can't understand because we don't have the right frame of reference yet. Creation is a good example. God asked Job in so many words did you watch creation take place? (Job 38) So we have a few words in Genesis describing events and we make assumptions on how it took place. But God would have to explain these writings in more detail for us to really know what happened. Otherwise we only know the few facts we've been told and we don't even understand those like we should.

When asking Abraham to sacrifice his kid, i can understand the verse in many ways. bad ones and good ones, yet they are just that. interpretations.

(which, btw, i have a full understanding of the logic behind the request)

The question is do you believe that god literally said it to Abraham or not?

It's literal yes. God really spoke. However there are allegories in the story as well. It's about how the story is written and the providence of God. These come together to put deeper layers into the stories even though they are true. Genesis is one of the most spiritual books in the Bible. If people think Revelation is symbolic and esoteric ... Genesis is the same.

Sorry, i cant understand what you are saying.
If they are not revealed, how do you know they are true?

Experience teaches us to trust in God. Since we have trusted God before and found that our trust was answered. We learn to trust every Word of God. (Proverbs 30:5)

But Jesus taught that nothing was hidden that it should not be revealed. God can show us the hidden things. So trusting in God is a good idea. It's logical to trust in God because it means God will show us new things.

What do you mean?

Understanding the character of God helps us understand God's Word.

What do you mean when saying holy? (sorry for all the questions, its just that i have a very specific understanding of the word and i want to make sure i understand you correctly

I seem to get asked this question a lot. It means "set apart". It's not profane, not common.

By who? Where did you get this notion?

I'm speaking of the tabernacle. The tabernacle was designed from the first to be restricted in access. It was guarded by the Levites so that people could not come to close.

What room?

The holiest of holies.

Can you give an example?
I am not really sure i understand.

Studied Kabbalah before? I don't agree with all Kabbalah, but some Kabbalah is an example of the kind of thing I'm talking about. There is always something deeper to be learned in the scriptures.

Many things.
Mostly those who are in parallel with our current scientific knowledge and discoveries.

Very good. You will excuse my opinion that God is showing you things or talking to you.

Psalm 119:18
Open thou mine eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of thy law.

 

[Segev Moran]

ok, I think same rule can be used also for it.

Example?