It doesnt make sense

[TashaN]

No, not all religious people believe that way.

I forgot to mention that what i meant by religious people is the people who believe in Torah, Injeel and Quran for instance who have in thier scriptures that there is an end for this life but of course there are many religions that don't believe so :bonk:

 

[jonmarkgo]

Why try to please god?

 

[TashaN]

Why try to please god?

[56] I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me.


[57] No Sustenance do I require of them, nor do I require that they should feed Me.


[58] For Allah is He Who gives (all) Sustenance, - Lord of Power - steadfast (forever).


[59] For the wrong-doers, their portion is like unto the portion of their fellows (of earlier generations): then let them not ask Me to hasten (that portion)!


[60] Woe, then, to the Unbelievers, on account of that Day of theirs which they have been promised!

(Quran 51:56-60)

 

[Ezzedean]

jonmarkgo
I’m gonna try hard to help you understand how it’s possible for me to believe in my religion, but before I do that, I would like to thank you for asking this question. It has sparked some interesting replies, and some good reads.

First you need to understand that I am a believer in God. God says to follow a certain way of life while living on earth. Prophets follow God…. His way of life…. His religion... so what makes me and you any better than them? You said Trying to emulate jesus is a good thing to do. But thats not really what religions do. To emulate Jesus, Mohammed, or Moses we have to be following our religions. Jesus celebrated all of the Jewish holidays and performed the rituals, as did Moses. Mohammed did the same with Islam. You can’t submit yourself to God without following his law.


It is taught that praying to God is a good deed. To follow my religion (devoutly) I am to pray five times a day. So if I follow my religion is that good for me or bad? In my religion I am to give a percentage of my yearly income to charity, is that good for me or bad? In my religion I am supposed to take a trip to Mecca for God, and perform a pilgrimage for him, will that be good for me or bad? My religion tells me to fast during Ramadan, will this do good for me or bad? Following Gods law and the acts of worship prescribed unto us, can pretty much guarantee that on Judgment Day the Good will most definitely outweigh the bad whether it be as a Muslim, Christian or Jew. God is doing THE HUMAN BEINGS (me and you) a huge favor by revealing these things to us through the prophets. Don’t you think?



I know I emphasized on the Religious duties of a Muslim a little bit more than the other monotheistic religions but in the end, if your going to follow something God has revealed to us… The Quran, The Bible and the Torah.... I can put a million dollars on the fact that although our traditions may differ, our souls are all pure.



Peace and Blessings
Ezzedean Fadel

 

[Whitsuntide]

JonMarkgo,
I believe in a God for the simple fact that man knows so little. We don't know where electromagnetism came from, how life began, we can't explain space, time, gravity, or really anything. We're good and measuring, describing, and categorizing things, manipulating them for science, but we don't understand the very basics of our existence or how they came to be. Can anyone understand death, the soul, whether there is one or not? We can conjecture but we'll never know. We'll never know why the human has this capacity to contemplate its existence.
You have to consider why the human would be put in this theatre of consciousness, of "existence", for so short a time. The chances of being placed in this state of such perfect uncertainty, in which every choice you make has to be done on pure faith, to me points to some sort of test. If there is a test, there is a Tester.
That's just my theory, could be way out in left field but its a reason to believe in God. Although your question was about religion - sorry I'm not religious, can't help you there.

 

[Abram]

Why try to please god?

You'll have to go into this with a open mind. You must realize your always trying to please someone, yourself, friend, family, boss. This person you are trying to please is the standards you are trying to impress. So to impress your boss you work hard and show up on time. In doing that you become better at your job, which in turns impresses or pleases your boss.

Now when you please yourself you do things that feel good to you. You start to focus on desires, which never end up good. Desires are how the devil works us, sex, drugs, a lie to hide embarrassment. So in pleasing your self you please the enemy.

Now when you please God you are doing things that would impress him. Being humble, giving, helping, not lashing out at someone, forgiving someone you don't want to. In doing this you become better at it. Becomes more natural. So I myself please God because in doing so I become more humble, loving, caring, patient, less worried about the world.

You become like the God you worship. Look at Rome, at one time a superpower of the world. It's now in filth and garbage. They worshiped a cold, hard, materialistic God.

 

[Hacker]

In my opinion, it doesn't matter what religion you are. WHat's important to me is a spiritual practice that enhances my relationship with God on behalf of my own beliefs that resonates with me. Some people don't like red, and some do so we are all going to have different beliefs. If your belief makes you feel connected with God and leads you into being a good person and respecting the other's, the earth, and yourself(etc) then hallehlua, praise God!!:clap

 

[Hacker]

In my opinion, religion doesn't matter. WHat's important to me is a spiritual practice that enhances my relationship with God on behalf of my own beliefs that resonates with me. Some people don't like red, and some do so we are all going to have different beliefs. If your belief makes you feel connected with God and leads you into being a good person and respecting other's, the earth, and yourself(etc) then hallehlua, praise God!!:clap

 

[may]

look, religious people have always been wrong. The most religious people have been extremely evil. Religion has ruined more people's lives than it has helped. Even today people are treated badly because of prejudices against them because of religion. Religion doesnt make you a better person. believing there is a god doesnt make you not a dirtbag. You could have become a better person without religion. IF I am wrong, according to christianity, everyone was saved anyway so it doesnt matter. Religion simply takes up a lot of time and ruins peoples lives. It holds back our species and cause a lot of problem. I have yet for someone to give me a reason for why there is a need for religion still.

i agree that false religion has coursed lots of problems on the earth , that is why God is going to get rid of ( the world empire of false religion) very soon now, but he also tells his people to get out of false religion , because when it goes down it will never be found again
And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind ......... revelation 18;4

(2 Corinthians 6:17) Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves, says Jehovah, and quit touching the unclean thing and I will take YOU in

And a strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying: "Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again ............ revelation 18;21 yes false religion has already fallen from power , she has no hold on Gods people ,she is on death row ready to go down.

 

[Abram]

Well, that my point. What I'm saying is that maybe there is a neurological need to believe in something higher than yourself. Maybe thats why religion originally started but it kept getting more and more complex until it is the way it is today. I think religion started and continues because of something neuological.

I think there is a need built into us to believe in something. Maybe when we were created God put that in us so we would look for him. On top of that he made a world of limitless skys and bottomless oceans so we would ask "how did this get here." The Native Americans knew there was something long before we showed up with our so called religion.

 

[jazzalta]

At the risk of offending, I ask this simple question. Do any of you strong believers ever think you and/or your religion might be wrong?

 

[Bishka]

At the risk of offending, I ask this simple question. Do any of you strong believers ever think you and/or your religion might be wrong?

Yes, but then I think and realize what a stupid thought that was, and how I know it's true.

 

[Popeyesays]

Im not asking why specific people ppractice specific religions. im asking why humans contine to practice religions when there really isnt a need to anymore.

Well, that's a very personal and subjective judgement. Why should you expect anyone else to answer it for you?

Regards,
Scott

 

[jazzalta]

Yes, but then I think and realize what a stupid thought that was, and how I know it's true.

Are you saying it is stupid to challenge your organization or your religion? Is it just as stupid to believe everything you've been told, without ever questioning or challenging the "powers that be" or the tenets of your faith?

 

[Ody]

I just dont understand how it is even possible for people to believe in any religion. religions were originally started to explain simple things like the sun rising and setting but now that we know so much, what is the point of them? It seems like they are holding back our species because religious freaks get so upset about science for on reason. I would like someone to give me one real, plausible reason why people still have religions and how they can believe in them.

Says a person who has declared to follow a religion, buddhism :biglaugh:

 

[Gabriel_Woodard]

I think the reason for religion is it is a way of preventing people from going...well completly nuts, its like a second set of laws, without religion in the point of evolution we are at now society would go into chaos, im sure that eventually we would emerge from it a more informed and civilized society but it would take a long time to get there. religion, i think its a thing of the past something which we need to overcome, or at least these self centered "only me and my own go to heaven" religion such things as buddhism i think are still acceptable. but to me religion is probably not the best, but a belief in a god, or higher power, if thats what your debating is a very much more in depth and strange topic to have a yes, no opinion on.

 

[gnostic]

I think the reason for religion is it is a way of preventing people from going...well completly nuts, its like a second set of laws, without religion in the point of evolution we are at now society would go into chaos, im sure that eventually we would emerge from it a more informed and civilized society but it would take a long time to get there.

At the moment, I would welcome chaos. Look outside, and you will see that civilisations have become more barbaric. Religion and civilisation may have the appearances of been civil, but underneath all the words, looks and spirituality, the beast within is ready to pound and devour anyone who object their belief, their faith and their interpretation.

There are goods and benefits in belonging to religion, but nothing have cause more mayhem and bloodshed than in the name of their religion or their god. Christianity and Islam have done enough damage in past. And the present doesn't look too rosy either.

 

[may]

At the moment, I would welcome chaos. Look outside, and you will see that civilisations have become more barbaric. Religion and civilisation may have the appearances of been civil, but underneath all the words, looks and spirituality, the beast within is ready to pound and devour anyone who object their belief, their faith and their interpretation.

There are goods and benefits in belonging to religion, but nothing have cause more mayhem and bloodshed than in the name of their religion or their god. Christianity and Islam have done enough damage in past. And the present doesn't look too rosy either.

yes i agree and christendom is most to blame because she claims to represent the God of the bible but has been unfaithful to God no wonder that God is telling his people to get out of false religion .
And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. revelation 18;4 thats what i have done i have got out of BABYLON THE GREAT because she is going to go down in a big way , i have got out while i still have the chance, and where have i gone ,i have allowed myself to be taken in by Jehovah

The name of Jehovah is a strong tower. Into it the righteous runs and is given protection proverbs 18;10

 

[ashai]

Ushta jonmarkgo

The pointis that we do not know anywhere near what you think we know and not even a millionth of what we can know

Ushta Te

Ashai

 

[ashai]

Ushta Jonmarkgo

You say
Im not asking why specific people ppractice specific religions. im asking why humans contine to practice religions when there really isnt a need to anymore.

Because to most of us it makes perfect sense and gives us access to a reality you cannot even dream about! Its all a matter of perspective For ex. You look at history and see religious authorities and religious people doing evil. Yet you fail to realize that for every Torquemada, there were millions of loving believers that never made into the pages of history precisely because they did not murder torture and kill.

You also fail to see that Atheists and agnostics have done as much mayhem as the supposedly religious. Mao? Stalin? Pol Pot? Castro? Mussolini?( And please do not claim Catholicism for Il Duce he was a self confessed atheist and a marxist most of his life until he created Fascism to gain power)

What you are missing is that God teaches and counsels a way of life. Its up to us to follow it. If I murder, I cannot blame religon or God I have to blame me. If you murder you cannot blame your unbelief you have to blame yourself

Ushta Te
Ashai