ppp
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It is hypocritical to use religion and the Bible to justify opposition to abortion.
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I am sure that you think that matters.
LOL.. it just depends on who you speak to.
I support your right to say it doesn't matter.! 
In the census of the 12 tribes of Israel, boys weren't counted as people until 30 days of age. Girls and women weren't counted as people at all.
So in this analogy, literal surgery is the "stabbing" and mass genocide is "surgery"?
ppp
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The truth of a claim does not depend on to whom you speak. Or do you think that there is no objective reality?LOL.. it just depends on who you speak to.
When does reality conform to what you think is objective?
ppp
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I'm not interested in conversation with someone who won't answer questions. Have a lovely day.
TagliatelliMonster
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No it doesn't.
This is about a third party attacking a pregnant woman and the woman miscarrying due to the violent act.
This has nothing to do with the abortion debate.
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God did kind of repent for doing this Genesis 8:20-22
Therefore if your argument is that God did that, then it's normal to expect that pro-abortion people repent as well and stop doing what they are doing.
I disagree.
Sheldon
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Is it an objective fact that the world is not flat? That would seem to be an example wouldn't you say?
Yet there are those who still believe its flat even as there are those who believe prayer is an effort in futility.
TagliatelliMonster
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I can only blame that on stubborness.
I'm sorry you don't see the obvious difference between a third party attacking someone and a person herself making a decision.
Consider the difference between having sex with mutual consent on the one hand and being raped on the other.
In both cases, people have sex.
Do you see a difference though?
It's the same difference.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
The question wasn't about what people BELIEVE.
It was about what is OBJECTIVELY TRUE.
Learn the difference.
Sheldon
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You seem to have ignored yet another question. Is it an objective fact that world is not flat? I am not asking what preposterous beliefs people hold. I answered your question:
You either agree that the assertion the world is not flat is an objective fact or you do not. If you do, then that would be an example of reality conforming to what I also believe to be objectively true. Which coincides with the overwhelming objective evidence, and not by accident obviously.
EXACTLY!
Your context was in the scriptural quote.
So, are you saying the person birthed through rape is not valuable and should be discarded?
Nice strawman.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
EXACTLY!
You say "exactly", but it directly contradicts what you said.