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It is impossible to step out of the real world

exchemist

Veteran Member
Mass and momentum are properties of what exists, Brahman. How do we visualize space with nothing other than fields?
If there was ever a true representation of existence, it is this: Quantum fluctuation - Wikipedia
And so is energy. Mass, momentum and energy are all in the same category: properties of physical systems. Physical systems can include fields. For instance a magnetic field has stored energy in it (as is obvious when the traction motor on an electric train cuts out).
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Where did I ever claim any such thing?

All I am saying is that the method and approach of science is reliable and consistent, and that means it is wise to follow.

Irrelevant given I made no such claim.

Okay, to me it is wise to use science when it works and wise not to use it, when it doesn't work.

For these 3 options:
-Science works for all human conditions and the world as such and can always give positive answers. If you have a problem, you can always use it to get a correct positive answer.
-Science doesn't work in any positive sense at all.
-Science is a limited human method and only applies to some conditions and not all.

So which one are you and which one am I?
 
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mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
And so is energy. Mass, momentum and energy are all in the same category: properties of physical systems. Physical systems can include fields. For instance a magnetic field has stored energy in it (as is obvious when the traction motor on an electric train cuts out).

See, you like to point out how words work, here is a very simple one for the verb "be".
Well, any human uses the word in it different forms, it pays to check what version they are using and if they in effect do an equivocation fallacy.
The cat is multicolored. That human is wrong. The universe is physical.
The list goes on, but it for philosophy ends in effect empiricism and if it has a limit.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
-Science works for all human conditions and the world as such and can always give positive answers. If you have a problem, you can always use it to get a correct positive answer.
Science does give the best answers, but do we accept them? Do we implement them?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Science does give the best answers, but do we accept them? Do we implement them?

There is no evidence for the bold using science, because best is in the mind.
So I do it differently.
Science gives the best answers for its limited methodology, but it can't give the best answer for all cases of being a human.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Science does give the best answers, but do we accept them? Do we implement them?


Scientific methods give the best answers to many questions about aspects of the natural world. But can science tell me how to make sense of my finite existence in the context of eternity? Can it tell me what it means, to be a fragment of consciousness looking outward into space and time, and inward toward the fathomless depths of my own soul?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Scientific methods give the best answers to many questions about aspects of the natural world. But can science tell me how to make sense of my finite existence in the context of eternity? Can it tell me what it means, to be a fragment of consciousness looking outward into space and time, and inward toward the fathomless depths of my own soul?

Yeah, the existential absurdity as I learned.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Scientific methods give the best answers to many questions about aspects of the natural world. But can science tell me how to make sense of my finite existence in the context of eternity? Can it tell me what it means, to be a fragment of consciousness looking outward into space and time, and inward toward the fathomless depths of my own soul?
At the moment, it cannot do that. Universal consciousness, for me, is woo. There is no evidence that soul exists.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Okay, to me it is wise to use science when it works and wise not to use it, when it doesn't work.

For these 3 options:
-Science works for all human conditions and the world as such and can always give positive answers. If you have a problem, you can always use it to get a correct positive answer.
-Science doesn't work in any positive sense at all.
-Science is a limited human method and only applies to some conditions and not all.

So which one are you and which one am I?
Your questions are vague and too open for interpretation. Be more concise.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Your questions are vague and too open for interpretation. Be more concise.

Can you do everything you do just by using your external senses and your physical body?
Or do you do mental activities that can't be reduced to being based on what you know through your external senses?
 
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