It is up to us

[Shadow Wolf]

It is saying what man needed in the past, is not needed in this age.

We haven't changed that much. We still have the same needs, the same fears, same drives and desires.

Islam teaches us that it is all about submission to laws suited to the age we live.

No, it teaches submission to Allah. Laws suited to the age we live in? That is found in nowhere within Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. To the contrary they teach their gods laws are best regardless of what man's laws say.
Islam also has traditional teachings that are also horrible for dogs, with Ramadan being a holy month for Muslims while for dogs it is a very abusive, dangerous, and deadly time.

The Jews know the value of following laws to create strong and vibrant Nations, yet we must be able to change and embrace new concepts.

Lots of people have made nations, and made them last longer and have a larger influence.

What does not change is the core values of Virtue and Morality, what changes are the laws and guidance for the age we live.

Even values and morals change. Like slavery. It's permitted and condoned from Tanakh to Quran. Nothing immoral about it, and it has a high degree of implicit value. But today we widely condemn slavery and have abolish its practice. The Hebrew army could keep sex slaves because women were part of the plunder, and slaves could be beaten as severely as desires so long as they recovered in a few days because they're property.
Tradition--including religious--has been a bane and uphill battle when it comes to doing away with slavery.

We have the bounty in this age that we have been gifted scientific advancement along with the spiritual requirement to show kindness to animals.

Spiritual traditions gave us dominion over other animals and put us in our own category separate from and above animals. It says angels don't visit houses dogs live in. It says eating only vegetables and weak faith are comparable.

We have found a lot of cancer and disease most likely stem from the eating of animals. When we stop war and spend on medical and agricultural advancement, we will not eat animals, we will not be cruel to animals nor desire to take their lives.

The disease and cancer is true, but some animals and meats. Like fish is healthy. Processed meats are a carcinogen.
You are also speaking with a nonexistent crystal ball, as well with overlapping many nonexistent issues. Like war and animal abuse. War can bring animal abuse, and often does, but

That is where we get to choose, I have not found it to be wise on RF to offer much more than to say it is up to us what is a good tradition and what are the less desirable ones.

It's not wise here to answer a question and instead dance around it? Not really. This is a philosophy thread, meaning questions and answers are mandatory.

But I can offer two extremes to make a point.

Female circumcision, good or bad?

Unnecessary body modifications on children without consent are wrong. Circumcisijon of both child males and females are very traditional, very religious, and very wrong. It violates a modern concept known as "bodily autonomy." That's not religion. Religion gives many circumstances and reasons to violate the bodily autonomy of another.

Feeding and caring for the poor, the weak and the sick, good or bad?

We are social animals and pro-social behaviors generally benefit the one performing them to various ends. It's not just biological, it's psychological and social.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yes. But why is it good to hold on to those things? Like the animal examples. There aren't many good religious or spiritual traditions in regards to the treatment of animals. Many of these traditions come from beliefs humans are superior, that animals can be slave workers, they don't percieve their suffering, and that they are ours to do with as we please. Even many we hold up as ideal and achieving this didn't actually and just as well contributed to over hunting and driving other animals to extinction.
Should we not look for something new that outright and upfront embraces ethical considerations to other animals and not just the human animal given we know our traditions have been wrong and leading to great amounts of needless suffering?

I can only speak from a sufi P.O.V, and a sufi hold love and compassion for animals just as for humans. How other religious dobit i can not speak for

 

[Spirit of Light]

This thread with its different answers and understanding truly do show that it is up to each one of us to find the answers, and that no human understanding is the same.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I can only speak from a sufi P.O.V, and a sufi hold love and compassion for animals just as for humans. How other religious dobit i can not speak for

It's also a deeper level of understanding who animals are. Jane Goodall is basically the scientific queen of cementing humans are animals and we aren't that alike, and her stuff is so recent she's still alive.
Religion hasn't really addressed this. For the most part they assume we are very different, often giving us dominion over non-human animals. But even those that did, such as the pagan and animist beliefs of our ancestors that could only realistically go so far before it became detrimental. But that's not today, and that we can even have such a discussion seems to suggest we are in need of updating our understanding of who other animals are and our relationships with them. This puts an unusual pressure against eating meat that no one else has faced to this degree because we'd all be just fine without eating meat again. Very few in history could have even fathomed such a luxory.
And we are seeing these new realities everywhere. With technology, with rights and liberties, bodily autonomy, even states that are consistently stable and not constantly at war with eachother is a major development.
Most of our traditions are rooted in times when tomorrow wasn't very secure. Disease, violence, war, famine, so many things could take our lives and death was more present. We gave thanks for a new day because we probably knew at least someone who didn't get that day. But today it's unusual for someone from a number of nations to be faced with death on a normal basis. What we call traumatic events today was just a part of life for our ancestors.
So much of the world we humans live in today is so radically different from the world that begat our traditions that I don't see why we should turn to them.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It's also a deeper level of understanding who animals are. Jane Goodall is basically the scientific queen of cementing humans are animals and we aren't that alike, and her stuff is so recent she's still alive.
Religion hasn't really addressed this. For the most part they assume we are very different, often giving us dominion over non-human animals. But even those that did, such as the pagan and animist beliefs of our ancestors that could only realistically go so far before it became detrimental. But that's not today, and that we can even have such a discussion seems to suggest we are in need of updating our understanding of who other animals are and our relationships with them. This puts an unusual pressure against eating meat that no one else has faced to this degree because we'd all be just fine without eating meat again. Very few in history could have even fathomed such a luxory.
And we are seeing these new realities everywhere. With technology, with rights and liberties, bodily autonomy, even states that are consistently stable and not constantly at war with eachother is a major development.
Most of our traditions are rooted in times when tomorrow wasn't very secure. Disease, violence, war, famine, so many things could take our lives and death was more present. We gave thanks for a new day because we probably knew at least someone who didn't get that day. But today it's unusual for someone from a number of nations to be faced with death on a normal basis. What we call traumatic events today was just a part of life for our ancestors.
So much of the world we humans live in today is so radically different from the world that begat our traditions that I don't see why we should turn to them.

I think it is good you see the OP and the world view different than examle my self, And yes Jane Goodall was/is a very good human being who care deeply for the animals, actually her way of speaking sometimes remind me of Sufi teachers i spoken to

So No it is not only religious/spiritual people who can eperience the way the OP speak. It is up to each one of us to understand, so i realized some if not all of my judgment of others in the past was from my own lack of understanding.

 

[We Never Know]

This saying has so much wisdom in it, and if is a profound part of the enlightenment to the wisdom of God

If its up to us in general, we are screwed.
We have...
-made many species extinct,
-polluted land, air and water,
-destroy habitats
-destroyed more forest than we replant
-lets not leave off global warming

That's a few

 

[Spirit of Light]

If its up to us in general, we are screwed.
We have...
-made many species extinct,
-polluted land, air and water,
-destroy habitats
-destroyed more forest than we replant
-lets not leave off global warming

That's a few

Can it be stopped? i mean can it be returned to a healthy state so human can live on?

 

[We Never Know]

Can it be stopped? i mean can it be returned to a healthy state so human can live on?

Its going to take more than finger pointing.
In reality we will never destroy life or earth. Both were here long before us and will be here long after us. All we can do is try to not destroy so much while we are here and hopefully that will allow us to be here longer.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Can it be stopped? i mean can it be returned to a healthy state so human can live on?

We may be screwed. The Earth in the long run will adapt and be fine I am sure. But the plastics and nuclear waste were leaving behind, were seeing life evolve in Chernobyl reactors and well probably find organisms evolved as a response to plastics before much longer.
But we are hardy survivors ourselves, with the proven drive for survival and self preservation of living organisms and a brain and limbs to extend our capabilities far beyond anything natural. We may survive yet.

 

[Spirit of Light]

We may be screwed. The Earth in the long run will adapt and be fine I am sure. But the plastics and nuclear waste were leaving behind, were seeing life evolve in Chernobyl reactors and well probably find organisms evolved as a response to plastics before much longer.
But we are hardy survivors ourselves, with the proven drive for survival and self preservation of living organisms and a brain and limbs to extend our capabilities far beyond anything natural. We may survive yet.

Can i play the devil for a moment and ask:

What you say is that since technology/science gave us plastic, nuclear waste and example fossil driven vehicle, this is what created the downfall of nature? So it is not wrong to look back to the old times and learn from the religious texts after all

 

[We Never Know]

We may be screwed. The Earth in the long run will adapt and be fine I am sure. But the plastics and nuclear waste were leaving behind, were seeing life evolve in Chernobyl reactors and well probably find organisms evolved as a response to plastics before much longer.
But we are hardy survivors ourselves, with the proven drive for survival and self preservation of living organisms and a brain and limbs to extend our capabilities far beyond anything natural. We may survive yet.

We are also hardy breeder's and hardy destroyers.

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[Shadow Wolf]

Can i play the devil for a moment and ask:

What you say is that since technology/science gave us plastic, nuclear waste and example fossil driven vehicle, this is what created the downfall of nature? So it is not wrong to look back to the old times and learn from the religious texts after all

A hammer can build a home or take a life. Science updates itself and actively discards old ideas that don't work anymore. We've even installed many safeguards to help protect the public against abuses inflicted in the name of research.
Religions change, the adherents change, but the core books don't. The Tanakh, the Bible, the Quran, the formalized versions accepted as canon aren't much for changing. Many denominations and adherents take great in that.
And as we've seen in many places it is very possible for things to go backwards.