Wandering Monk
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The guy who once said Trump is an American Hitler is now his choice for VP. Maybe Trump thought it was a compliment! 
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It's JD Vance for Trump
- Thread starter Wandering Monk
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Another nail in the national coffin. From Hillbilly Elegy to Toady-in-Chief --- sad. (I regret I read the book, now.)The guy who once said Trump is Hitler is now his choice for VP. Maybe Trump thought it was a compliment!
Alien826
No religious beliefs
He had four years to find out what stood in his way to total power, and three+ years to plan what to do about it.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Wandering Monk
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Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
My guess is that Trump chose Vance in order to get Ohio's electoral votes.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I think it's good to have a former critic. This is a man who knows both sides of the aisle whom I think can be an effective and valuable co-president of this country.The guy who once said Trump is an American Hitler is now his choice for VP. Maybe Trump thought it was a compliment!
Bear Wild
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Except that any republican who criticizes trump must either remove themselves from the party in exile or bow down to the King. Critisim does not work well with trump. Ask all those he turned on.
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Vance's political positions:
- opposes abortion rights, even in the case of incest or rape, but says there should be exceptions for cases when the mother’s life is in danger
- one of the leading opponents of U.S. support for Ukraine in the war with Russia. “I think it’s ridiculous that we’re focused on this border in Ukraine,” he said in a podcast interview with Stephen K. Bannon, the former Trump adviser and longtime ally. “I’ve got to be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other.”
- views on immigration largely echo Mr. Trump. He wants to finish construction of the border wall and proclaimed that he would “oppose every attempt to grant amnesty” to immigrants who arrived here illegally. He favors what he called a merit-based system for immigrants seeking to settle here.
- “I think the election was stolen from Trump,” Mr. Vance said during the Republican primary for his Ohio seat, putting him firmly in the camp of election deniers. Mr. Vance dismissed the idea that Mr. Trump played a role in instigating the demonstrators who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. And he said that if he had been Mr. Trump’s vice president then, he would have bowed to Mr. Trump’s demand and rejected electoral votes from several swing states won by Mr. Biden in 2020.
- has called for “broad-based tariffs, especially on goods coming in from China,” because they pose an unfair threat to American jobs and commerce, he said. “We need to protect American industries from all of the competition,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”
- has said climate change is not a threat and has said he is skeptical of the scientific consensus that warming of the earth’s atmosphere is caused by human activity. “It’s been changing, as others pointed out, it’s been changing for millennia,” he told the American Leadership Forum. Mr. Vance is a strong supporter of the oil and gas industry — which is dominant in his home state — and has voiced opposition to wind and solar energy, and electric vehicles.
- has been a steadfast supporter of Israel throughout the country’s war in Gaza, defending its wartime policies in the face of growing criticism over the civilian death toll.
When members of the Senate considered a bill providing military aide to both Israel and Ukraine, Mr. Vance led a group of senators proposing legislation to send money only to Israel. Echoing the words of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, he said the country needed to eliminate Hamas after the terrorist group’s deadly Oct. 7 attack on Israel.
“Israel has an achievable objective,” Mr. Vance wrote in a memo he circulated among Senate Republicans before introducing the bill. “Ukraine does not.”
www.nytimes.com
- opposes abortion rights, even in the case of incest or rape, but says there should be exceptions for cases when the mother’s life is in danger
- one of the leading opponents of U.S. support for Ukraine in the war with Russia. “I think it’s ridiculous that we’re focused on this border in Ukraine,” he said in a podcast interview with Stephen K. Bannon, the former Trump adviser and longtime ally. “I’ve got to be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other.”
- views on immigration largely echo Mr. Trump. He wants to finish construction of the border wall and proclaimed that he would “oppose every attempt to grant amnesty” to immigrants who arrived here illegally. He favors what he called a merit-based system for immigrants seeking to settle here.
- “I think the election was stolen from Trump,” Mr. Vance said during the Republican primary for his Ohio seat, putting him firmly in the camp of election deniers. Mr. Vance dismissed the idea that Mr. Trump played a role in instigating the demonstrators who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. And he said that if he had been Mr. Trump’s vice president then, he would have bowed to Mr. Trump’s demand and rejected electoral votes from several swing states won by Mr. Biden in 2020.
- has called for “broad-based tariffs, especially on goods coming in from China,” because they pose an unfair threat to American jobs and commerce, he said. “We need to protect American industries from all of the competition,” he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”
- has said climate change is not a threat and has said he is skeptical of the scientific consensus that warming of the earth’s atmosphere is caused by human activity. “It’s been changing, as others pointed out, it’s been changing for millennia,” he told the American Leadership Forum. Mr. Vance is a strong supporter of the oil and gas industry — which is dominant in his home state — and has voiced opposition to wind and solar energy, and electric vehicles.
- has been a steadfast supporter of Israel throughout the country’s war in Gaza, defending its wartime policies in the face of growing criticism over the civilian death toll.
When members of the Senate considered a bill providing military aide to both Israel and Ukraine, Mr. Vance led a group of senators proposing legislation to send money only to Israel. Echoing the words of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, he said the country needed to eliminate Hamas after the terrorist group’s deadly Oct. 7 attack on Israel.
“Israel has an achievable objective,” Mr. Vance wrote in a memo he circulated among Senate Republicans before introducing the bill. “Ukraine does not.”
J.D. Vance on the Issues, From Abortion to the Middle East
Like Donald J. Trump, the Ohio senator has been skeptical of American intervention overseas and argues that raising tariffs will create new jobs.
Reminds me of an old Kliban cartoon.
It really should be "Politics On Parade".
Note:
Anyone offended by this cartoon should be thankful
that I didn't post something from Human Centipede.
Clizby Wampuscat
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Trump does not hold grudges, he likes people that once opposed him and have changed their minds about him. JD Vance is a good pick, he agrees with Trump's policies, is smart and can win in 2028.The guy who once said Trump is an American Hitler is now his choice for VP. Maybe Trump thought it was a compliment!
Yes, apparently he can recognise an idiot when he sees one but his memory isn't that good.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Ahh ok, he is an idiot right. Do you have any further outstanding analysis like this?Yes, apparently he can recognise an idiot when he sees one but his memory isn't that good.
It reminds me of the couple JFK-LBJ.
Whoever can understand, will.
Whoever can understand, will.
Vance called him an idiot - in 2016.
You're serious?
He's notorious for holding grudges.
After his historic guilty verdict, Trump is focused on revenge
The former president has done at least five interviews since his guilty verdict. In all five, he has talked about possible retribution.
www.nbcnews.com
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Sure, he changed his mind.
Clizby Wampuscat
Well-Known Member
Yes, and he said his revenge was to be successful and he did not have time for it. But of course it does not matter what he says you will just say he is a liar.You're serious?
He's notorious for holding grudges.
After his historic guilty verdict, Trump is focused on revenge
The former president has done at least five interviews since his guilty verdict. In all five, he has talked about possible retribution.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I mean, it was one text which I'm pretty sure he thought was private, eight years ago when he was about 31. He said this specifically, in a text to his former room mate:
he goes "back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical arse hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler."
MSN
www.msn.com
I've often thought the same way to be honest. And I'm not 31!
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So he wants revenge (ie, he holds a grudge), but lacks the time for it.
From this you reason that he doesn't hold grudges.
No matter what he says, you'll love him even more.
Notice:
That last line is tit-for-tat.
I like responding in kind.
In this case it pointed out that you used the ad hominem fallacy.
The repetition is like poetry.