I've decided that I want to be a Muslim...now how do I tell my family?

[Gharib]

Well i never said that i followed the Whabist or Salafi's ways so i am not sure how you came to such a conclusion.

I was simply saying that one first should learn the Basic teachings of Islam before choosing a madhhab or looking into the subject. I agree on the notion that one should follow a madhhab or a mixture of them i was simply pointing out that a new "convert" first should worry him/her self about the basic stuff.

Brother I do not make false accusations, you have stated yourself in another thread that you are a salafi. I remember we were talking about this in another thread about 6-7 months ago or something.

I didn't mean to be offensive or rude, I just wanted to point out that what you said was wrong. So too the second part of this post.

The madhhabs explain the basics. It is the basics (salah) that Matthias was having trouble with because he came across the hanafi and shafi'i way of praying Salatul Witr. All these little problems go away if one chooses to follow a specific madhhab and stick to it until they are better educated.

 

[Assad91]

Salafist aka "wahhabist" (again, another insult using the name of Allah) follow a madhhab by Muhammar ibn Abd alwahhab.

Nooo. I think I read they mainly follow hanbali. But what they do is ignore what contradicts sunnah and quran but follow what doesnt.

Thing is, they still follow qiyas qnd ra'y.

 

[Assad91]

If I can give any advice, stay away from qiyas and ra'y. Personal opinions should have no place in religion. Go by Quran and Sunnah. Quran is the words of Allah verbatim and the Sunnahh is words of Prophet Muhammad (saws) verbatim. Follow them.

 

[Peace]

It's strange, ever since I finally came to Islam I have no desire to do many haraam things!

same for me. I thought it was going to be impossible to change all these bad "habits" that have formed over the last 30+ years. But honestly, I don't even think about those things anymore. Alhamdulillah!

Masha'Allah!! May our dear Allah keep you firm on the right path and may He be your support and companion!

 

[Peace]

Prime example for me is listening to music: I used to be an obsessive music listener. Now I get little pleasure from doing so and my music listening time is now close to none. I much prefer nasheeds and qiraats now.

I admire your strive and jihad to obey Allah and please Him, masha'Allah

 

[Peace]

If I can give any advice, stay away from qiyas and ra'y. Personal opinions should have no place in religion. Go by Quran and Sunnah. Quran is the words of Allah verbatim and the Sunnahh is words of Prophet Muhammad (saws) verbatim. Follow them.

The Qiyas (comparison) is also important, brother. Yes, Muslims should stick to the Quran and the Sunnah, but the qiyas is also there to help us practice our religion and know what is haram and what is halal or what is disliked and what is permitted. When a new situation emerge and there is no reference to it in the Quran and the Sunnah, what are going to do? Let's take the example of the durgs or smoking. Drugs and smoking didn't exist at the time of our Prophet peace be upon him, so how should we know if they are halal or haram? The scholars resort to al- qiyas so as to derive and establish a ruling from Islamic law and apply it to a new case provided that the latter share the same basis for which the original ruling was issued.
For example, we know that drugs are haram because they compare it to wine.. etc.

 

[MatthiasGould]

The Qiyas (comparison) is also important, brother. Yes, Muslims should stick to the Quran and the Sunnah, but the qiyas is also there to help us practice our religion and know what is haram and what is halal or what is disliked and what is permitted. When a new situation emerge and there is no reference to it in the Quran and the Sunnah, what are going to do? Let's take the example of the durgs or smoking. Drugs and smoking didn't exist at the time of our Prophet peace be upon him, so how should we know if they are halal or haram? The scholars resort to al- qiyas so as to derive and establish a ruling from Islamic law and apply it to a new case provided that the latter share the same basis for which the original ruling was issued.
For example, we know that drugs are haram because they compare it to wine.. etc.

Ah, I've come across this principle when I've read articles about things like fertility treatment which are of course modern advancements.

 

[F0uad]

Brother I do not make false accusations, you have stated yourself in another thread that you are a salafi. I remember we were talking about this in another thread about 6-7 months ago or something.

I didn't mean to be offensive or rude, I just wanted to point out that what you said was wrong. So too the second part of this post.

The madhhabs explain the basics. It is the basics (salah) that Matthias was having trouble with because he came across the hanafi and shafi'i way of praying Salatul Witr. All these little problems go away if one chooses to follow a specific madhhab and stick to it until they are better educated.

I am pretty sure i never made such claim about myself i think you fully misunderstood me or miss-read it.

Again Esslam your not understanding me i said if you follow basic Islam you are most likely already following a Madhab while being unaware of it. The other point i was bringing forth was if a "New" guy is going to focus on the the madhhabs he can lead himself confused and after that astray. So what i was really trying to say is highlighted above.

 

[Assad91]

The Qiyas (comparison) is also important, brother. Yes, Muslims should stick to the Quran and the Sunnah, but the qiyas is also there to help us practice our religion and know what is haram and what is halal or what is disliked and what is permitted. When a new situation emerge and there is no reference to it in the Quran and the Sunnah, what are going to do? Let's take the example of the durgs or smoking. Drugs and smoking didn't exist at the time of our Prophet peace be upon him, so how should we know if they are halal or haram? The scholars resort to al- qiyas so as to derive and establish a ruling from Islamic law and apply it to a new case provided that the latter share the same basis for which the original ruling was issued.
For example, we know that drugs are haram because they compare it to wine.. etc.

No, we get that from the hadith



Al-Bukhaari (4087) and Muslim (1733) narrated that Abu Moosa said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent Mu’aadh ibn Jabal and me to Yemen, and I said: O Messenger of Allaah, there is a drink that is made in our land and is called al-mizr, which is made from barley, and another drink called al-bit’, which is made from honey. He said: “Every intoxicant is haraam.”





Al-Bukhaari (4343) and Muslim (3032) narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) say from the minbar of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “O people, the prohibition of khamr was revealed when khamr was made from five things: grapes, dates, honey, wheat and barley. Khamr is whatever befogs the mind.”

 

[Gharib]

No, we get that from the hadith



Al-Bukhaari (4087) and Muslim (1733) narrated that Abu Moosa said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent Mu’aadh ibn Jabal and me to Yemen, and I said: O Messenger of Allaah, there is a drink that is made in our land and is called al-mizr, which is made from barley, and another drink called al-bit’, which is made from honey. He said: “Every intoxicant is haraam.”





Al-Bukhaari (4343) and Muslim (3032) narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) say from the minbar of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “O people, the prohibition of khamr was revealed when khamr was made from five things: grapes, dates, honey, wheat and barley. Khamr is whatever befogs the mind.”

Brother you are wrong in your stance on this issue.

Sister Peace is right, that is how it works. There are many things which did not exist and have no direct reference. What is the ruling on using a computer? But remember, there were no computers back then.

Or what about cars, what do the hadith say about cars?

 

[Assad91]

Everything is halal unless pronounced haram. I dont thino there needs to be a ruling on computers or cars.

 

[Assad91]

Inshalah later I will be able to post hadith whichvsays qiyas will be a fitnah

 

[Godobeyer]

Brother you are wrong in your stance on this issue.

Sister Peace is right, that is how it works. There are many things which did not exist and have no direct reference. What is the ruling on using a computer? But remember, there were no computers back then.

Or what about cars, what do the hadith say about cars?

nice said , i totaly agree with you

 

[F0uad]

I also agree the founders of the four Madhabs have done many work regarding it, following one school doesn't mean you only have to follow the Fiqh.