I've never fit the social norm

[icehorse]

Nope. I'm no good at math.

Perhaps you're not as good at logic as you think you are? It's not impossible to be good at logic and bad at math, but it's rare. So perhaps some of your problems stem from thinking that you'e being honest and logical, but in reality you're being illogical. That could certainly turn people off.

 

[Rival]

Perhaps you're not as good at logic as you think you are? It's not impossible to be good at logic and bad at math, but it's rare. So perhaps some of your problems stem from thinking that you'e being honest and logical, but in reality you're being illogical. That could certainly turn people off.

I'm logical but hopeless at maths.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I have social issues, but as far as I know I am not autistic. I think I would know at my old age.

I have certainly been compared to people who do have autism, however, which is strange.

Neither am I a psycho, which could be considered the other end of the spectrum. I have never felt the need to kill anything or anyone.

I do understand rules and laws. I follow them.

However, I have always been socially awkward. When people first meet me, I am shy. Then I open up and they start to shy away from me. It's always been the pattern.

I suppose it might be due to the fact that I tend to explain logical concepts that others find disconcerting because they find those concepts less than desirable. Desire, emotion, has no place in logic, right?

Also, I find tact to be useless in social situations. Honesty is a rule, tact is a construct of little value that merely allows people to live in a false comfort. People are offended by my honesty, and it is due to the fact that they cannot handle the truth. I will always be truthful rather than provide that which is a false comfort; it is the only logical concept.

I have Asperger's Syndrome, and that sounds like something I might say.

 

[icehorse]

I'm logical but hopeless at maths.

Serious questions: Do you understand boolean logic? Do you understand truth tables?

It seems to me that you're either not as good as logic as you think you are, or perhaps you're better at math than you think you are?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Perhaps you're not as good at logic as you think you are? It's not impossible to be good at logic and bad at math, but it's rare. So perhaps some of your problems stem from thinking that you'e being honest and logical, but in reality you're being illogical. That could certainly turn people off.

I'm logical but hopeless at maths.

I honestly believe that with math, most people do not suck at it and they can do it, but how often do we actually ever use it beyond the basic stuff? It's not so much a matter of people being good or bad at it, but an issue of practice. Such as, I consider myself a competent at math, but whenever I'd help my nieces or nephews with their math homework I'd have to refresh myself, read over the text book, look it up online, or start with the answer and reverse the steps to the answer. However, any of my college math teachers would likely just to be able to look at the problem and know immediately how solve it. Not because they are necessarily better at it, but it's a regular and routine part of their job.
And then there are different teaching methods, something I've noticed that can make a huge difference in math "clicking" or not in someone's head.

 

[Laika]

I have asburger syndrome and I've always had similar social issues. I'm usually labeled as shy but I'm actually somewhat cautious of people. The minute I seem to open up to someone they want to walk away from me. I don't know if it's because I'm not good at controlling my emotions or I turn out to be someone people don't expect me to be. People think I seem innocent but then I get excited about "morbid" topics like skulls and they seem to want to turn me down. Or I say something "strange" and they don't talk to me again.

Maybe some people don't find comfort in the truth while others like to know the truth.

I don't have asperger's but have found the same thing. So its not you.

 

[Rival]

I honestly believe that with math, most people do not suck at it and they can do it, but how often do we actually ever use it beyond the basic stuff? It's not so much a matter of people being good or bad at it, but an issue of practice. Such as, I consider myself a competent at math, but whenever I'd help my nieces or nephews with their math homework I'd have to refresh myself, read over the text book, look it up online, or start with the answer and reverse the steps to the answer. However, any of my college math teachers would likely just to be able to look at the problem and know immediately how solve it. Not because they are necessarily better at it, but it's a regular and routine part of their job.
And then there are different teaching methods, something I've noticed that can make a huge difference in math "clicking" or not in someone's head.

I just cannot do maths. Crap at it at school, crap in real life.

 

[Rival]

Serious questions: Do you understand boolean logic? Do you understand truth tables?

It seems to me that you're either not as good as logic as you think you are, or perhaps you're better at math than you think you are?

I could if someone had ever bothered introducing me to the concepts. I did well in my philosophy classes.

 

[icehorse]

I could if someone had ever bothered introducing me to the concepts. I did well in my philosophy classes.

My bet is that you were unlucky with the math teachers your got. If you did well in philosophy (I have no doubt), math should have been easier. sigh.

 

[Rival]

My bet is that you were unlucky with the math teachers your got. If you did well in philosophy (I have no doubt), math should have been easier. sigh.

Not really. Ever since I was a child I have been bad at it. I remember one of my very first nightmares as a six year old was of all the students in my class in a zombie like state marching towards me holding maths books they had earned, when I still lagged behind on the easier worksheets. I was the last in my class to learn how to tell the time. Things like this.

 

[Kapalika]

Logic is kind of the basis of math. Logic is math and math is logic. I don't see how the two can be separated. More formally I might say that math is the natural extension of logic.

It's also why I don't use "logic" in social situations. What does that even mean? Unless we want to know how many slices of pizza or beers to hand out math isn't gonna solve most social situations. Although pizza and beer will... maybe. Who can be mad if you are giving out that?

But seriously though, I think most people mean their own personal sense of "smart" or "rational" when they say "logical". In most day to day things logic isn't even relevant. Most people don't usually go around arguing and the content is usually more important than the methods used to get to an opinion or view for most people.

If I met someone and they started saying my reasoning for being Hindu or Satanist as wrong, or that my taste in music was "illogical" I probably wouldn't speak to that person again unless I really had to.

Put in OP's thinking... why is it logical to challenge other people when it isn't solicited? It's a waste of time and energy that could be better spent, and it just harms one's social relationships. Social relationships are important to one's mental health, and so challenging everyone in a way they won't like when unsolicited will harm you.

If any of my posts seem ironic or hypocritical, it's meant to show OP or anyone who does the same what it's like from the other side. Plus I think a topic like this is soliciting us in the first place given the nature of the first post's content.