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Jai Mata Ji! Happy Navratri!
- Thread starter DeviChaaya
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Yeah, it never hurts to cover all the bases and over-compensate (says the o.c.p.d. guy with g.a.d. 
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Weeee! It's the last night of Navratri tonight! Today we offer our worship to Siddhidatri Ma, She who grants Siddhis. Siddhis are often believed to be supernatural powers and are said to be a huge distraction to liberation. But Ma only gives us what we need and not all of us are seeking liberation in this life. Some of us, instead, are seeking to help others or simply to satisfy certain karmas.
May we all bow down before Siddhidatri Ma, who blesses us all with gifts untold.
Tomorrow's Dussehra!
May we all bow down before Siddhidatri Ma, who blesses us all with gifts untold.
Tomorrow's Dussehra!
ronki23
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instead of opening a new thread, I am just wondering
why do we pray to Durga and her avatars during Navratri if Navratri and Dussera are the days Rama fought and defeated Ravana?
Should we not pray to Rama? Or is it because of this?
I have trouble understanding this religion at times:
why do we pray to Durga and her avatars during Navratri if Navratri and Dussera are the days Rama fought and defeated Ravana?
Should we not pray to Rama? Or is it because of this?
I have trouble understanding this religion at times:
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ronki23
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Why? I honestly don't know why Navratri is about Mataji if it's about Rama?
and those pictures confuse me as those deities don't 'know' one another. Of course it's about one-ness of God but you have other pictures that make more sense
Well, on a lighter note...
I went to temple for about 40 minutes tonight. I got there before the Sri Vishnu Sahasranama made my rounds, sat for a bit, made my rounds again, then left as the Sahasranama was finishing. A lot of people were beginning to come in (~6:30); with that and seeing the portable spotlights at the Devi sanctums, quoting the Tooter Turtle Show, I said "Twizzle Twazzle Twozzle Twome, Time for This One to Come Home".
I went to temple for about 40 minutes tonight. I got there before the Sri Vishnu Sahasranama made my rounds, sat for a bit, made my rounds again, then left as the Sahasranama was finishing. A lot of people were beginning to come in (~6:30); with that and seeing the portable spotlights at the Devi sanctums, quoting the Tooter Turtle Show, I said "Twizzle Twazzle Twozzle Twome, Time for This One to Come Home".
instead of opening a new thread, I am just wondering
why do we pray to Durga and her avatars during Navratri if Navratri and Dussera are the days Rama fought and defeated Ravana?
Should we not pray to Rama? Or is it because of this?
I have trouble understanding this religion at times:
We worship Durga because Rama would not have been able to defeat Ravana if he had not worshipped Her that is All. Rama had to worship Durga in order to receive Her blessing, Her power, in order to defeat Ravana who was a great devotee of Shiva.
ALSO. There is the fact that while several sects share festivals, we have different reasons for them. Dussehra is celebrated because Ma's power is manifested in the world, victory over the ignorance of ego is celebrated. That the Vaishnava's also worship Rama on this day is really only coincidence.
It was a matter of going straight at the light to go to the temple, or turning right at the light to go home. I decided just at the light to go straight. It was touch 'n go. Mostly because I am super tired from not sleeping (back is spasming horribly), and I didn't know if I'd be able to stand or sit very long. But the gods are benevolent.
Sri Krishna told Arjuna to pray to Maa Durga also.
Just sayin'
Lord Krishna said to Arjuna: "Purify yourself, O mighty-armed one,
on the evening of this great battle and compose a hymn to Durga for achieving
victory over your enemies".
Arjuna said:
"I bow to you, O foremost of Siddhas, O Noble One, that dwells in the forest of
Mandara, O Virgin, O Kali! O wife of Kapala! O you of a black and tawny hue.
I bow to you. O Beneficent Kali, I bow to you, O Maha-kali, O wrathful One. I bow to
you. O Tara (the saviour) the great boon bestowing one.
O Durga! Great Being, the fierce bestower of victory! O (personification of) Victory!
O you that bears a banner of peacock plumes, O one decked with every ornament.
O you that wields an awful spear, the holder of sword and-shield, O you that were born
as the younger sister of the chief of cow-herds, O eldest sibling, born in the family of
the cowherd Nanda!
O you who are always fond of buffalo's blood, born of Kusika's clan, dressed in yellow
robes, having assuming the face of a wolf you devoured the Asuras! I bow to you who
are fond of battle!
O Uma! O Sakambhari! O you that are white in hue, and also black! O slayer of the
Asura Kaitabha! O yellow-eyed one! O you that see everything! O you of eyes that have
the colour of smoke, I bow to you!
You are the Vedas, the Srutis, and the greatest virtue! You are propitious to Brahmanas
engaged in sacrifice. You are all knowing, you are ever present in the sacred abodes
erected to you in cities of Jamvudwipa, I bow to you!
You are the Knowledge-of-the-highest-truth among sciences, and you are that sleep of
creatures from which there is no waking. O mother of Skanda, possesor of the six
(highest) attributes of Divinity, O Durga, that dwells in the most inaccessible regions.
You are called Swaha, and Swadha, and the subtle divisions of time such as Kala, and
Kashta. You are the goddess of knowledge: Saraswati, and ihe mother of the Vedas, and
the personification of Vedanta.
With inner mind purified, I praise you, O great goddess, let victory always attend me
through your grace, on the field of battle.
In inaccessible regions, where there is fear, in places of difficulty, in the abodes of your
worshippers and in the nether regions (Patala), you always dwell. And in battle you
always defeat the Danavas.
You are the unconsciousness, the sleep, the illusion, the modesty, the beauty of (all
creatures). You are the twilight, and the radiant light of day! You are Savitri, and you
are the mother of all creation.
You are contentment, development, fortitude and light. You increase the radiance of the
Sun and the Moon. You are the prosperity of those that prosper. The Siddhas and the
Charanas behold you in deep contemplation! Bhishma Parva 23:4-16
Fireside_Hindu
Jai Lakshmi Maa
Navratri also celebrates when Durga Maa game to earth to defeat Mahishasura - the embodiment of fear, ego and inaction. Over the course of nine days she takes nine different forms (which vary by region) to overpower the Asura and restore Dharma on earth.
It just happens to end on Dussera when Rama defeated Ravana so it's celebrated at the same time.
Hinduism is vast and complicated. There is nary a day without a festival. Many are bound to overlap.
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ronki23
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My Mum told me out of naivety from her friends back in Tanzania that Sikhs celebrate Navratri. Apparently there's 'two' Navratris and Sikhs celebrate the 'other' one.
I see no evidence of this. Except Guru Gobind Singh Ji wrote his own story about Durga but again, he himself wrote it
I see no evidence of this. Except Guru Gobind Singh Ji wrote his own story about Durga but again, he himself wrote it
ronki23
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No idea ... I see there are 4 others listed here. Navratri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wikipedia is your friend.
Wikipedia is your friend.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
IST would not do. The time has to be calculated according to the coordinates of the place where is is residing (lattitude, longitude).That's cheating.
Four things have to be mentioned in detail during a ritual: Who is conducting it and for what purpose, location, and time. Just like any other invite.
Person: name, father's name, grandfather's name, Gotra (genealogy);
Location: Continent, country, state, city/Village;
Time with all necessary factors as shown below:
"In Vedic astrology, meaning "five attributes" of the day. They are -
Tithi - Ending Moment (EM) of elongation of the Moon, the lunar day, the angular relationship between Sun and Moon (Apparent Moon minus Apparent Sun). One Tithi equals 12 degree difference between Moon and Sun.
Nakshatra - EM of asterism of the day, that is, the stellar mansion in which Moon is located for an observer at the center of the Earth. One Nakshatra equals 13 degrees:20 minutes. There are 27 Nakshatra in 360 degrees.
Yoga - EM of the angular relationship between Sun and Moon (apparent Moon plus Apparent Sun). One Yoga equals 13 degrees:20 minutes. There are 27 Yogas in 360 degrees.
Karana - EM of half of a Tithi. One Karaṇa equals 6 degree difference between Moon and Sun.
Var weekday the seven weekdays." (Wikipedia - Panchangam)
It helps the Gods and Goddesses to come early and well prepared for the necessary action.
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Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Why not worship both?
You are not the only one.
Go with pictures that do not confuse you. Who said there is one God? That may be a personal opinion. I can count more than a hundred without any difficulty. Each God or Goddess can take any form they want. Depends on how their devotees visualize them (Jaki rahi bhavana jaisi, Prabhu murat tin taisi dekhi).
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ronki23
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Why not worship both?
You are not the only one.
what I meant was that the pictures are 'random' because we have never heard of God taking these forms/these forms communicating with one another
These Gods were created by Brahman and serve beneath him. Sikhs call God Waheguru, mainstream Hindus call him Brahman, Vishnuvaites call him Vishnu, Shaivates Shiva, Shaktiates Durga and and ISKCON Krishna. So we don't know which is the main one. In Abrahamic religions he is Yaheweh [though Catholics paint him as a man] and Islam calls him Allah. I believe the Sikh,mainstream Hindu, Abrahamic view of God being a formless being is right and these deities are beings that are beneath God
actually, why do we celebrate Navratri and Dussera at the same time? How do we know when these events were (assuming the battles of Durga were not on Earth as I recall only Vishnu's incarnations dealt with Earth)
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Fireside_Hindu
Jai Lakshmi Maa
And you are welcome to believe whatever you like.
As for the other question, I answered it above n my other post.
Also, I think your confusion is coming from the fact that you assume all these deities and their roles are uniform across Hinduism. Hinduism isn't just one thing it's thousands of different groups under one umbrella. You're trying too hard to smoosh everything together under one flag and it isn't going to work .If it confuses you so much perhaps you need to take a step back from it for a while.
OR, maybe you should actually try and read more books on Hinduism. There's a whole sticky thread dedicated to book recommendations.
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