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James Bond Novels Edited to Remove Racist Content

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
For instance in Australia there is a very popular brand of cheese called “Coon”
In Australianese the name is utterly harmless
But I don’t think such a brand name would be met very warmly in many American regions. Due to very different connotations
I think due to so much relocation of people through the years and possibly just wanting to make things easier for potential international distribution, the company has since rebranded lol

Especially in Maine.

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The Maine Coon cat can grow quite large
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
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Do you think that's what has happened here?

I can't answer for @Revoltingest, but such things could have the effect of whitewashing history. By rewriting authentic texts and literature from different eras (in order to make them more sensitive and politically correct for today's readers), it could have the effect of changing perceptions of those eras. If someone wanted to do research on racist literature in the early 20th century, they may not be able to find any if it all gets revised.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can't answer for @Revoltingest, but such things could have the effect of whitewashing history. By rewriting authentic texts and literature from different eras (in order to make them more sensitive and politically correct for today's readers), it could have the effect of changing perceptions of those eras. If someone wanted to do research on racist literature in the early 20th century, they may not be able to find any if it all gets revised.
I already answered.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can't answer for @Revoltingest, but such things could have the effect of whitewashing history. By rewriting authentic texts and literature from different eras (in order to make them more sensitive and politically correct for today's readers), it could have the effect of changing perceptions of those eras. If someone wanted to do research on racist literature in the early 20th century, they may not be able to find any if it all gets revised.
I’m sure that researchers would rely upon original uncensored works. But the general public would never see them, perhaps believing that Huck Finn called ****** Jim “Person Of Color Jim”.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
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Yes I stated that the brand known as coon has since changed their name and brand in my reply
Perhaps you missed that part?

Btw is it Unaustralian of me to say that I prefer Bega?:shrug:

Sorry, it was your use of 'is a brand' early in the post. It got stuck in my head and I managed to somehow not even notice the sentence later talking about the rebranding.
And no. I'm a Bega boy too. Vintage.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
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I can't answer for @Revoltingest, but such things could have the effect of whitewashing history. By rewriting authentic texts and literature from different eras (in order to make them more sensitive and politically correct for today's readers), it could have the effect of changing perceptions of those eras. If someone wanted to do research on racist literature in the early 20th century, they may not be able to find any if it all gets revised.

That would seem a little larger in scope and consideration than the James Bond touch-ups specifically referred to in the OP, though. These are minor wording changes, done based on rewording done by the author himself before his death. There are still plenty of non-pc references in there...and this isn't a history book at all.

For me, removing the n word as a way of describing a black man isn't problematic. Removing it from your character's voices is. I'd need to see a list of the changes to really judge (for example, it's reported a striptease scene is removed, to which I'd wonder why?)

It's different (to me) than the more extensive and clumsy work being done of Dahl's novels, without any input or direction from Dahl himself that such a thing was within his intent.

Oh, and in terms of changing perceptions of eras...there are LOTS of things I think are more problematic in that sense than tweaking a few words in a Bond novel.
 

lewisnotmiller

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I’m sure that researchers would rely upon original uncensored works. But the general public would never see them, perhaps believing that Huck Finn called ****** Jim “Person Of Color Jim”.

I'm against changing the wording of Huck Finn, although I'm fine with some sort of generic trigger warning at the front of the book, much like we have at the front of tv shows. 'Dear reader, this novel is a classic and we have left it untouched. It contains language generally seen as unsuitable for modern audiences. We have included a highly sophisticated way you can avoid these confronting words if you need to. It's called 'don't turn the page'.'
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
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I would agree but its difficult for Ian Fleming to give his blessing

Yup, and I wouldn't be arguing too hard with those that see this as unwarranted and harmful.
More just in general, I think it's fine if an author decides to revise their own work for basically any reason.

Fleming allowed editors to adjust his books for different markets whilst he was alive. You could see this as simply more of the same, given that the majority of the edits are to remove derogatory references to African Americans which occur in the narrator's voice, rather than a characters voice.

I'm not a fan of it, but I don't see it as being 'as bad' as the recent Dahl edits, and I don't see it as being 'as bad' as burning all Bond books.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
...but I don't see it as being 'as bad' as the recent Dahl edits, and I don't see it as being 'as bad' as burning all Bond books.

I think any edits without the author's permission are unacceptable. In essence it's rewriting history. Something i could not agree with even for the sake of political correctness
 
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