Jan. 6 committee takeaways

[Stevicus]

The wealthy do fare better than the poor,
but money pales in comparison to being
a powerful politician.

Yes, although the two generally go hand in hand.

Celebrity status also helps. Even if someone is notorious like Trump, they're still going to have a lot of light placed on them, so anyone dealing with him is also going to have a lot of light placed on them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, although the two generally go hand in hand.

If a powerful pol isn't wealthy upon entering
the profession, then one uses it to become so.
Power is key. Wealth joins the ride.

 

[Stevicus]

If a powerful pol isn't wealthy upon entering
the profession, then one uses it to become so.
Power is key. Wealth joins the ride.

It would seem so. I was just reading that the Clintons' net worth is around $120 million. (How Much Is Bill Clinton Worth? (yahoo.com))

His salary as attorney general and governor of Arkansas was never higher than $35,000 per year, yet he had a net worth of $700,000 in 1992, when he was elected President. And now, his personal wealth is around $80 million, and together, he and Hillary have $120 million. Obama's net worth is around $70 million.

Trump's net worth is considerably higher, though that, in and of itself, may not be a reliable measure of one's relative political power, which is more a popularity contest than anything else.

 

[Revoltingest]

Trump's net worth is considerably higher, though that, in and of itself, may not be a reliable measure of one's relative political power, which is more a popularity contest than anything else.

Trump appears to have managed to actually
lose wealth upon entering politics. But he is
an odd duck even in a pond filled with oddities.

 

[metis]

My thoughts on this subject:

Trump 2024

You forget to add "...in prison".

 

[Ponder This]

Remember, the Dems offered seats on the committee to the GOP, but they declined.

Recall that Democrats refused to allow the Republicans their choice of who, from their party, to put on the committee. The Democrats offered seats to the Republicans on the condition that Republicans place on the committee people the Democrats wanted!

 

[metis]

The Democrats offered seats to the Republicans on the condition that Republicans place on the committee people the Democrats wanted!

Nope. It was because Jordan on the other already had claimed Trump was innocent even before the selection had begun.

 

[icehorse]

Recall that Democrats refused to allow the Republicans their choice of who, from their party, to put on the committee. The Democrats offered seats to the Republicans on the condition that Republicans place on the committee people the Democrats wanted!

Given how off the rails the GOP has largely become, do you blame them? Life's too short to interact with the likes of MTG or Cruz or Blowbert or...

 

[Ponder This]

Given how off the rails the GOP has largely become, do you blame them? Life's too short to interact with the likes of MTG or Cruz or Blowbert or...

Yes, I blame them. The idea that they can't take the time to consider the dominant opinions held by the other party does not redeem them.

 

[icehorse]

Yes, I blame them. The idea that they can't take the time to consider the dominant opinions held by the other party does not redeem them.

Can you list a few POSITIVE dominant positions the GOP holds? In other words, what do they say "yes" to?

 

[Ponder This]

Can you list a few POSITIVE dominant positions the GOP holds? In other words, what do they say "yes" to?

Your emphasis appears irrelevant. Jan 6 is a particular subject not a general one. Democrats overwhelmingly held the opinion that Trump was guilty. Republicans mostly held that Trump was not guilty. Obviously, the Democrat position was the more "negative" one and the Republican position the more "positive" one, but that's irrelevant. The Democrats decided to dismiss the main Republican opinion when forming the committee. Democrats weren't serious about finding the truth. Rather, they were serious about making sure their narrative was accepted as truth.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Your emphasis appears irrelevant. Jan 6 is a particular subject not a general one. Democrats overwhelmingly held the opinion that Trump was guilty. Republicans mostly held that Trump was not guilty. Obviously, the Democrat position was the more "negative" one and the Republican position the more "positive" one, but that's irrelevant. The Democrats decided to dismiss the main Republican opinion when forming the committee. Democrats weren't serious about finding the truth. Rather, they were serious about making sure their narrative was accepted as truth.

Did you watch the hearings? They certainly presented a mountain of evidence. Plus, we all saw with our own eyes and ears what Trump did (and didn't do) that day. Maybe you missed it?

 

[icehorse]

Your emphasis appears irrelevant. Jan 6 is a particular subject not a general one. Democrats overwhelmingly held the opinion that Trump was guilty. Republicans mostly held that Trump was not guilty. Obviously, the Democrat position was the more "negative" one and the Republican position the more "positive" one, but that's irrelevant. The Democrats decided to dismiss the main Republican opinion when forming the committee. Democrats weren't serious about finding the truth. Rather, they were serious about making sure their narrative was accepted as truth.

And - given the mountains of evidence provided - what is the "Republican opinion"?

 

[metis]

Democrats overwhelmingly held the opinion that Trump was guilty.

Tjhat's overstated. Yes, Dems and prbablhy most independents and some Pubs saw what was going on and probably wondered if Trump was behind it in some way. As an independent, I was one of those people, but I did not conclude at that time that he was. However, now we know that he was instrumental in what happened, and even Trump's actions [and inactions] sorta made that a probability.

 

[Ponder This]

And - given the mountains of evidence provided - what is the "Republican opinion"?

You should ask Republicans that question, but, generally, I would say Republicans see the Jan 6 committee as a ****show, a Kangaroo Court, a political hit job.

 

[metis]

You should ask Republicans that question, but, generally, I would say Republicans see the Jan 6 committee as a ****show, a Kangaroo Court, a political hit job.

Only the ones that are ignorant of what happened or dishonest or both.