Jesus Christ died and was crucified on 08-17

[peacecrusader888]

You keep saying this but that does not prove it. Where does this information come from?

I said "may" but I know that World War III will start from Spratly Islands in the middle of the year on a Wednesday. The prophecy came from the spirit of Ama who most, if not all, of His listeners believe to be Jesus Christ Himself. He likened the war to a gas lantern which when lit will spread its glow. I am helping in analysing what He said,

I woke up this morning and the war did not start yet from Spratly Islands. Maybe, the time is US time or Rio de Janiero time, We will see.

As Revelation 19:10 says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Then we will know that He is the true God because He is not only omnipotent and omnipresent but also is omniscient. He knows everything.

 

[Milton Platt]

There may have been a Jesus or several Jesus's.....We can he certain in all cases that if he lived, he died. Without a massive amount of empirical data, w can never assume he rose from the grave.

 

[peacecrusader888]

I said "may" but I know that World War III will start from Spratly Islands in the middle of the year on a Wednesday. The prophecy came from the spirit of Ama who most, if not all, of His listeners believe to be Jesus Christ Himself. He likened the war to a gas lantern which when lit will spread its glow. I am helping in analysing what He said,

I woke up this morning and the war did not start yet from Spratly Islands. Maybe, the time is US time or Rio de Janiero time, We will see.

As Revelation 19:10 says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. Then we will know that He is the true God because He is not only omnipotent and omnipresent but also is omniscient. He knows everything.

The war has not started yet, whether it is US times or Rio de Janiero time, The first time I heard about the war was in the mid-1980. It is about 30 years now. Spratly Islands was not even in the news. Now it is a potential flash point.

Just be careful especially on a Wednesday. The middle of the year by quarter is from 04-01 to 09-30. That is until the end of September. God is waking us up. Let us wake up. Change our wrong beliefs. Change our wrong ways. Come back to God.

 

[peacecrusader888]

There may have been a Jesus or several Jesus's.....We can he certain in all cases that if he lived, he died. Without a massive amount of empirical data, w can never assume he rose from the grave.

Yes, Jesus Christ lived. Therefore, He died. Four gospel writers wrote about Him. Saul of Tarsus or Saint Paul was an ardent persecutor of His followers but He became a champion of Jesus.

If you were to worship a god, then be sure that He is the true God.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Yes, Jesus Christ lived. Therefore, He died. Four gospel writers wrote about Him. Saul of Tarsus or Saint Paul was an ardent persecutor of His followers but He became a champion of Jesus.

If you were to worship a god, then be sure that He is the true God.

The spirit of Ama said that Jesus Christ was crucified and died on 08-17. No year. Just month and day. 08-17 is in August, a summer month in the Northern Hemisphere. Nowadays, the Passover Festival is held in spring, Nisan 14-21. Nisan is the first month of the religious calendar. How come that the Festival was in summer? Is Ama correct?

I have proven in my study using mainly the Holy Bible that Ama is correct, twenty (20) years after I first heard 08-17 from old listeners in 1983. Even though I finished the study in 2003, I still got evidences that Jesus was crucified and died happened in summer.

Among the evidences are:
1. 2009 - Cursing of the fig tree (Mark 11:12-14, 20-22; Matthew 21:18-20)
2. 2009 - The naked man (Mark 14:50-52)
3. 2012 - The donkey
4. 2013 - Kedron Brook
5. 2014 - Three Sabbaths (Acts 17:2)
6. 2014 - Fishing of Peter and other disciples (John 21:7)
7. 2015 - Garments laid down on the path of Jesus (Matthew 21:8; Mark 11:8; Luke 19:36)
8. 2015 - Washing of the feet (John 13:4)

 

[peacecrusader888]

The spirit of Ama said that Jesus Christ was crucified and died on 08-17. No year. Just month and day. 08-17 is in August, a summer month in the Northern Hemisphere. Nowadays, the Passover Festival is held in spring, Nisan 14-21. Nisan is the first month of the religious calendar. How come that the Festival was in summer? Is Ama correct?

I have proven in my study using mainly the Holy Bible that Ama is correct, twenty (20) years after I first heard 08-17 from old listeners in 1983. Even though I finished the study in 2003, I still got evidences that Jesus was crucified and died happened in summer.

Among the evidences are:
1. 2009 - Cursing of the fig tree (Mark 11:12-14, 20-22; Matthew 21:18-20)
2. 2009 - The naked man (Mark 14:50-52)
3. 2012 - The donkey
4. 2013 - Kedron Brook
5. 2014 - Three Sabbaths (Acts 17:2)u
6. 2014 - Fishing of Peter and other disciples (John 21:7)
7. 2015 - Garments laid down on the path of Jesus (Matthew 21:8; Mark 11:8; Luke 19:36)
8. 2015 - Washing of the feet (John 13:4)

Part 1 - Cursing of the fig tree

I finished checking in 2003 the revelation of the spirit of Ama that Jesus was crucified and died on 08-17, and found Him to be correct. Six year later, on 2009-07-18, I read in the book "The Foreigner - A Search for the First Century Jesus" by Desmond Stewart (1924-1981) questioned the crucifixion took place in spring (sometime in March or April). The author argued that the fig tree with many broad leaves and as such, is not expected to bear fruit in early spring.

The cursing happened four days before Passover on 3760 Av 10 or 1 BC 07-28, a Friday. The account of the fig tree is in the Holy Bible on Matthew 21:18-20 and Mark 11:12-14, 20-22. It is also in Pasiong Mahal on pages 71-72 which says that the fig tree is like man. Man maybe sinful and unholy and the leaves are broad, but is useless. So man has to bear fruit of nice works. Otherwise, it will be cursed.

 

[peacecrusader888]

The spirit of Ama said that Jesus Christ was crucified and died on 08-17. No year. Just month and day. 08-17 is in August, a summer month in the Northern Hemisphere. Nowadays, the Passover Festival is held in spring, Nisan 14-21. Nisan is the first month of the religious calendar. How come that the Festival was in summer? Is Ama correct?

I have proven in my study using mainly the Holy Bible that Ama is correct, twenty (20) years after I first heard 08-17 from old listeners in 1983. Even though I finished the study in 2003, I still got evidences that Jesus was crucified and died happened in summer.

Among the evidences are:
1. 2009 - Cursing of the fig tree (Mark 11:12-14, 20-22; Matthew 21:18-20)
2. 2009 - The naked man (Mark 14:50-52)
3. 2012 - The donkey
4. 2013 - Kedron Brook
5. 2014 - Three Sabbaths (Acts 17:2)
6. 2014 - Fishing of Peter and other disciples (John 21:7)
7. 2015 - Garments laid down on the path of Jesus (Matthew 21:8; Mark 11:8; Luke 19:36)
8. 2015 - Washing of the feet (John 13:4)

Part 2 - The naked man

Another question by the author Desmond Stewart (1924-1981) in his book "The Foreigner - A Search for the First Century Jesus" is the naked man mentioned in the Holy Bible in Mark 14:50-52. He said that a young man followed Jesus after His arrest at the Garden of Gethsemane with only having "a linen cloth cast about his naked body". He argued that a light garment like a linen cloth the young man had on would "hardly fit the overcoat chill of early spring".

Jerusalem, at 750m above sea level, is relatively cold on Nisan 14, a spring day. Can a young man at such an altitude and in the evening, bear the coldness of the night?

The spirit of Ama said that Jesus was crucified and died on 08-17, a summer day. I was able to prove that Ama is correct in my study from 1999 to 2003.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Part 3 - The Donkey
Christians celebrate Palm Sunday or "Domingo de Ramos" to signify the triumphant entry of Jesus to Jerusalem. Jesus rode on a donkey (or an ***) from Mount of Olives up to the gate of the city, and on the colt, the male foal of the donkey, and then on to the temple (page 68, Pasiong Mahal). This fulfils the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9, to wit: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy king cometh unto thee: he is just, having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ***, and upon a colt the foal of an ***."

Jesus said to His two disciple in Matthew 21:2, "Go into village over against you, and straightway ye shall find an *** tied, and a colt with her: loose them, and bring them unto me."

From the website of Carl and Sybil Sewell at http://www.albertadonkeyandmule.com/foaling-out-the-jennet.pdf, who have bred and raised donkeys for almost thirty years, of Windy Ridge Farm, Leslieville, Alberta, Canada, it says: "Spring is almost here and with the change of seasons comes foaling time for equine breeders ... Considering both the jennet's welfare and the donkey life span of 30-50 years, breeding every second year is a viable alternative that allows for foals to always be born early in the spring -- May-June -- when they can best benefit from the excellent spring grass."

The website continues: "The donkey has a thick, fluffy coat which gives the appearance of warmth and hardiness compared to the horse foal, but such is not the case. Donkey foals are not very hardy and require shelter especially for the first two to four weeks of life. If a foal becomes soaked with rain he may easily become chilled only to contract bronchitis or pneumonia which are often fatal."

 

[peacecrusader888]

It means that Passover when Jesus was crucified was not during spring or in the month of Nisan because the foal was just born and a person like Jesus cannot ride on a newborn foal.

If the foal was born in winter, say December, then it would be cold and rainy and may become soaked with rain and may become chilled and die from contracting bronchitis or pneumonia. In addition, there is no tender grass to feed on.

If the foal was born in spring, three months later, in the month of Av or in August, then the foal could be weaned from its mother and big enough to carry Jesus.

Did you know that the donkey has a cross on its back? Please check donkey images in Wikipedia. "With the rise of Christianity, some believers came to see the cross-shaped marking present on the donkey's backs and shoulders as a symbol of the animal's bearing Jesus into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday." (Wikipedia)

 

[peacecrusader888]

Kedron in the King James Version of the Holy Bible is spelled as "Cedron" (John 18:1) and "Kidron" (2 Samuel 15:23; 1 Kings 2:37, 15:13; 2 Kings 23:6; 2 Chronicles 15:16, 30:14; Jeremiah 31:40). Kedron Brook separates the eastern side of the city of Jerusalem with the Mount of Olives and the wilderness. During the rainy season from October to April, the stream on Kedron Valley becomes a torrent that it is dangerous to cross lest one maybe swept away and face certain death (1 Kings 2:37). When Jesus crossed the Kedron Valley from the city to Bethany, Mount of Olives, and Garden of Gethsemane, and back, it was summer, August.

Here is the rainfall in mm every month of the year of Jerusalem:
January - 142.2
February - 114.3
March - 99.1
April - 30.5
May - 2.5
June - 0
July - 0
August - 0
September - 0
October - 22.9
November - 68.8
December - 109.2

Source: The Weather Channel

 

[peacecrusader888]

Part 5 - Three Sabbaths

Saint Paul, aka Saul of Tarsus, came to Thessalonica, north of Athens, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. Acts 17:2 states: "And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scripture."

In the study that I made about the crucifixion of Jesus from 1999 to 2003 mainly using the Holy Bible, I found that there were three Sabbaths between crucifixion and resurrection. They were:
3760 Av 30, 1 BC 08-17, Thursday, crucifixion of Jesus
3760 Elul 1, 1 BC 08-18, Friday, high Sabbath (John 19:31), first day of Jesus in the sepulcher
3760 Elul 2, 1 BC 08-19, Saturday, regular weekly Sabbath, second day of Jesus in the sepulcher
3760 Elul 3, 1 BC 08-20, Sunday, Sabbath of the followers of Jesus, third day of Jesus in the sepulcher
3760 Elul 4, 1 BC 08-21, Monday, resurrection of Jesus

The spirit of Ama said that Jesus was crucified and died on 08-17. The revelation of Ama is correct. I found that Saint Paul in Acts 17:2 was referring to these three Sabbath days.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Part 6 - Fishing of Peter and other disciples

John 21:7 states: "Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea."

This happened at the Sea of Tiberias (John 21:11, 6:1, 23, 21:1) or Sea of Galilee (Matthew 4:18; Mark 15:29, 1:16, 7:31; John 6:1) or Sea of Chinnereth (Numbers 34:11; Deuteronomy 3:17; Joshua 13:27, 19:35), or Sea of Chinneroth (Joshua 11:2, 12:3; 1 Kings 15:20), or Lake of Gennesaret (Luke 5:1) between resurrection and ascension at about 6 AM.

If it was spring, do you think Simon Peter would be naked and "did cast himself into the sea"? The air and water temperatures must still be cold then. But since it was summer, he could be naked and the water warm even in the early morning hours.

The spirit of Ama revealed that Jesus was crucified and died on 08-17, a summer day. This is the evidence (2014) that I got from the Holy Bible that crucifixion really happened in summer rather than in spring. Ama is therefore correct in His revelation.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Part 7 - Garments laid down on the path of Jesus

On 2015-06-25, I noticed that people laid down their garments on the path of Jesus as He entered Jerusalem triumphantly on a colt. The Holy Bible states that people strew are in Matthew 21:8 (garments and branches), Mark 11:8 (garments and branches), Luke 19:36 (clothes), and John 12:13 (branches of palm trees).

If it was spring, do you think that people would lay down their garments that they were wearing? They might chill because Nisan 14 is still cold. But because it was summer when the crucifixion happened, it was warm, that is why they could remove their garments and lay them down.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Part 8 - Washing of the feet

John 13:4 states: "He riseth from supper, and laid aside his garments; and took towel, and girded himself." This happened at the washing of the feet of the disciples.

If it was spring, then do you think Jesus could have endured the cold night without His garments? Since it was summer, He could remove His garments and just girded Himself with towel.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Eight proofs, mainly from the Holy Bible!

Not in spring, but in summer.

Not sometime March or April, but on August 17.

Not at about 33 AD, but in 1 BC.

Do you now believe that Jesus Christ was crucified on 1 BC 08-17?

 

[Kelloggs]

The spirit of Ama said that Jesus was crucified on 08-17. And I proved that He is correct in my study from 1999 to 2003. How come that He was crucified in August instead of March or April?

What does the spirit of Ama say about me?

 

[YmirGF]

What does the spirit of Ama say about me?

It's probably best not to say as RF is a "family friendly" forum.

 

[Kelloggs]

It's probably best not to say as RF is a "family friendly" forum.

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