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Jesus Did Not Die, He Is Going To Come Back

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Scriptures were written for a reason.

Devining exact dates was not one of those reasons.

Repentance and turning to God is one of the biggest reasons.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Of course... you are free to read and study as you see fit!

Of course #2... it might change your perspective and beliefs!
 
NetDoc said:
Scriptures were written for a reason.

Devining exact dates was not one of those reasons.

Repentance and turning to God is one of the biggest reasons.
So how do you explain those scriptures? What is YOUR correct interpretation of them? Are they all a big coincidence or were they put into the Bible for a reason by divine authority?
 

Scott1

Well-Known Member
The topic of this thread is Jesus Did Not Die, He Is Going To Come Back.

Please stay on topic.

Scott
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
What is YOUR correct interpretation of them?
Scripture was never meant to be "interpreted".

As you submit to God you grow in his grace. As you grow in grace you can devine more of his will. Submit more and understand more. As your heart changes and becomes more focused on loving your neighbor as yourself, you have no reason to worry about the coming. In fact we look forward to his coming, but our patience grows as we see that there are many more who need to repent and come to God.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
To tie this in...

Jesus had to die to send us his Spirit (the counsellor). Taking away the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus eviscerates the New Testament of it's power. Jesus DID die, and BECAUSE of that, Jesus IS returning.
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
I agree Jewscout. 100 coins for your post.

But, some claim that he lives on in spirit and will return to Earth.
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
SoulTYPE01 said:
But, some claim that he lives on in spirit and will return to Earth.
Maybe but then that gets into the question of whether or not Jesus is the Moshiach. Rambam tells us we are not to concern ourselves with the questions of the coming Messianic period, when it happens it'll happen.
For now i think Jesus (if he existed there's still some question to that) came, preached, and died...period.
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
Yet I was always taught (especially in younger years of schooling) that he died on the cross for us.
Now if this were true, he physically died, but not spiritually. Many claim to see their deceased partners after their death. Perhaps God died on the cross, but did not die in the minds and visions of his followers.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Jesus died completely... both physically and spiritually.

His resurrection was just as complete.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Back on topic, please. Here's the OP, if you've forgotten:
jasonparker said:
Just as all the other prophets, Jesus ('Isa) (as) is a chosen slave of Allah whom Allah assigned to summon people to the true path. However, there are some attributes of Jesus distinguishing him from other prophets, the most important one being that he was raised up to Allah and that he will come back to earth again.

Contrary to what most people believe, Jesus was not crucified and killed nor did he die for any other reason. The Qur'an tells us that they did not kill him and they did not crucify him and that Allah raised him up to Him. In none of the verses, is there an actual reference to his murder or that he was killed, apart from the verse (ayah) which denies that it happened. Furthermore, the Qur'an acquaints us with some events from the life of Jesus (as) which have not yet happened. Thus, his second coming to earth is a prerequisite for these events to happen. There is no doubt that the Qur'an's revelations will surely happen.

Despite this, however, many people assume that Jesus (as) passed away some thousands of years ago and that thus it is unlikely that he will return. This is a misconception arising from lack of knowledge about the Qur'an and the Sunnah. A careful scrutiny of the Qur'an will render an accurate understanding of the verses about Jesus (as) possible.

Our Prophet (saas) also told us that Jesus (as) will be sent back to earth and related that in that time, which is called "the end of time", there may be a period in which the earth will attain unprecedented peace, justice and welfare.

The "end times" refers to the period of time close to the end of the world. According to Islam, in this time, there will be the terrible trials of the Dajjal (Anti-Christ), many earthquakes and the emergence of Yajuj and Majuj (Gog and Magog) after which the ways of the Qur'an will prevail and people will extensively adhere to the values it introduces.

Evidence that Jesus (as) did not die, that he was raised to the presence of Allah and that he will return again
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
That is if you believe Jesus to be the incarnation of G-d, which i for one don't. Could the ghost of Jesus still be around, maybe influencing people...maybe. But does this make him the son of G-d or the Moshiach, i for one don't think so. As you said there are claims of ghosts all over the world does that give them the same status as christians attribute to jesus? Being a ghost doesn't make you the Moshiach ben David...you sorta have to be alive to do that.
 
The Importance of Preparing for Jesus in Joy, Excitement, and Exuberance

Jesus is a blessed Messenger whom God graced with a miraculous life and honored by being chosen as a Prophet. God revealed that Jesus is "of high esteem in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near [to My presence]" (Qur'an, 3:45), and that he will be rewarded with Paradise. For this reason, all people must welcome him in the nicest possible way when he returns. Even a poor person prepares his or her house days in advance for an expected guest, and strives to be proper and worthy. On the other hand, given that Jesus is a most valued guest as well as a Prophet with superior qualities, everyone must welcome his return to Earth in the nicest way possible.

Jesus' second coming is a very great gift of God for all humanity, and it is an equally great gift to meet with this valued Prophet. When he comes, he will draw everyone's attention with his innocent, pure, and bright face, and will capture humanity's attention with his accurate, wise, and insightful speech. For the first time ever in their lives, all people alive at that time will see a Prophet of superior human qualities. God willing, his second life will be as full of miracles as was his first life. All people will admire him for his virtue and unrivalled wisdom. His every word will be inspired by God, and his every decision will be accurate.

All people, especially believing Christians and Muslims, must prepare in excitement, vigor, and great exuberance for his arrival. Those who do not do so are committing a great error, for it is a grave act of disrespect to be lazy or unconcerned about the arrival of such an important guest. Those who believe God's words must ponder the developments in the world and be aware of the signs of the End Times in order to prepare for this most important guest's arrival. They cannot say "I believe in Jesus' second coming" and then think along the lines of "but I will prepare later or make up for it later." Which conscientious, genuine Christian could say, when the appointed time has come: "We were expecting Jesus, but didn't consider it necessary to prepare for it"? If they say so because they believe that this event might be another 15-20 years away, they are mistaken, because they will see that 15-20 years can pass just like 15-20 days. As a result, they will suffer great remorse for their indifference. No one should forget that people in the 1970s thought of the 1980s or 1990s as the distant future. However, time passed quickly and brought the new millennium. Likewise, the day of our meeting with Jesus will arrive soon, God willing.

http://www.jesuswillreturn.com/s1_9.html

 
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