Jesus in Islam

RAYYAN · Nov 3, 2014

oh God....
ok Harikrish, forget it

Harikrish · Nov 3, 2014

RAYYAN said:
and show me where it says He met marry please

The prophet said he met Jesus, John the Baptist and Joseph. Absolutely no reason to believe Mary was not there with them, she was after all the mother of Jesus and the wife of Joseph.

But the point of my post was to show there is no mention of any Muslim martyr or the prophet Mohammad and his family going to heaven after they died. In fact very few virgins were spotted by the prophet during is ascension which we know he must have looked very hard for.

RAYYAN · Nov 3, 2014

Harikrish said:
The prophet said he met Jesus, John the Baptist and Joseph. Absolutely no reason to believe Mary was not there with them, she was after all the mother of Jesus and the wife of Joseph.

But the point of my post was to show there is no mention of any Muslim martyr or the prophet Mohammad and his family going to heaven after they died. In fact very few virgins were spotted by the prophet during is ascension which we know he must have looked very hard for.

Harikrish · Nov 3, 2014

RAYYAN said:
oh God....
ok Harikrish, forget it

Just realize that most Muslims have no idea what is taught in their Koran. They only know what their Imams teach them. Is it any wonder that the average Muslim does not speak out against the radical Muslims? They do not know any better.

RAYYAN · Nov 3, 2014

Harikrish · Nov 3, 2014

RAYYAN said:

I checked your profile. You are a proud Muslim in Canada. Do you have any evidence Canadians are proud of their Muslims? They just sent a few jets to bomb Muslims in the Middle East just after shooting a few in 2 Canadian cities, Ottawa and Montreal.

RAYYAN · Nov 3, 2014

Harikrish said:
I checked your profile. You are a proud Muslim in Canada. Do you have any evidence Canadians are proud of their Muslims? They just sent a few jets to bomb Muslims in the Middle East just after shooting a few in 2 Canadian cities, Ottawa and Montreal.

mahasn ebn sawresho · Nov 4, 2014

Harikrish said:
Very Few Muslims Can Read The Original Koran
One fifth of the world’s population is Muslim today and they have absolutely no assurance of salvation. Less than 20% of these Muslims are Arabs, who can speak Arabic. Yet, less than 20% of those who speak Arabic can actually read the Koran. And since the Koran was written in classical Arabic, even fewer can understand what it says because classical Arabic is different than modern Arabic.

The Koran Cannot Lawfully Be Translated
The truth is that less than 2% of Muslims are able to read the Koran (some say only .5%). Since this is true, how do Muslims know what is in the Koran? Since it is not lawful for the Koran to be translated into any other language, only commentaries on the Koran can lawfully be written. And guess what? Most of these commentaries are written by Imams and most of them have been taught by radical Muslims.

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paarsurrey · Nov 4, 2014

Joseph Stephen said:
I would appreciate enlightenment on the following. I realise in Islam Jesus is accepted as one of the prophets, peace be upon them. How much of Jesus's life as recorded in the bible is accepted in Islam? For instance are the miracles believed and do Muslims believe He rose from the dead?
Looking forward to your replys.

Joseph Stephen said: ↑[I realise in Islam Jesus is accepted as one of the prophets, peace be upon them.]

The above is true. Quran mentions it:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 19: Maryam

[19:31]He said, ‘I am a servant of Allah. He has given me the Book, and made me a Prophet;
[19:32]‘And He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and alms giving so long as I live;
[19:33]‘And He has made me dutiful toward my mother, and He has not made me haughty and unblessed.
[19:34]‘And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace there will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.’
[19:35]Such was Jesus, son of Mary.This is a statement of the truth about which they doubt.
[19:36]It does not befit the Majesty of Allah to take unto Himself a son. Holy is He. When He decrees a thing, He says to it, ‘Be!’, and it is.
[19:37]Said Jesus: ‘Surely, Allah is my Lord, and your Lord. So worship Him alone; this is the right path.’

www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=19&verse=31

Following points are clear to be derived from above:

G-d made Jesus a prophet.
Jesus worshiped G-d alone and enjoined others to worship G-d alone.
Jesus was not son of G-d in literal terms.
Jesus did not dies on the Cross as that is not a peaceful death.

Regards

paarsurrey · Nov 4, 2014

Joseph Stephen said:
I would appreciate enlightenment on the following. I realise in Islam Jesus is accepted as one of the prophets, peace be upon them. How much of Jesus's life as recorded in the bible is accepted in Islam? For instance are the miracles believed and do Muslims believe He rose from the dead?
Looking forward to your replys.

We do believe in miracles. Which specific miracle of Jesus you are referring to? Please mention the miracle.

Regards

Woodrow LI · Nov 4, 2014

Harikrish said:
Very Few Muslims Can Read The Original Koran
One fifth of the world’s population is Muslim today and they have absolutely no assurance of salvation. Less than 20% of these Muslims are Arabs, who can speak Arabic. Yet, less than 20% of those who speak Arabic can actually read the Koran. And since the Koran was written in classical Arabic, even fewer can understand what it says because classical Arabic is different than modern Arabic.

False, it is highly desired for all Muslims to learn to read the Qur'an in the original form. Very many non-Arab speaking Muslims are Hafiz, meaning they have memorized the entire Qur'an in the original Arabic. Qur'anic Arabic is much easier to learn than any of the spoken dialects of Arabic. It has a very small vocabulary and can be reduced to less than 2000 root words. Qur'anic Arabic is not and never has been used as a colloquial form of Arabic. No one speaks it as a language and no one ever has. Not even Muhammad(saws) spoke it as his daily language. No one has ever written or spoke as much as one original sentence in Qur'anic Arabic.

While many Grammar rules for Classical Arabic were derived from the Qur'an, the Qur'anic Arabic is not the same as classical Arabic,

Harikrish said:
Very The Koran Cannot Lawfully Be Translated

False. while it is true no translation is the Qur'an there is no prohibition on translating it into other languages. It just needs to be kept in mind that no Translation will fully equal the original. However many translations are sufficient to grasp a workable knowledge of the Qur'an.

Harikrish said:
The truth is that less than 2% of Muslims are able to read the Koran (some say only .5%). Since this is true, how do Muslims know what is in the Koran? Since it is not lawful for the Koran to be translated into any other language, only commentaries on the Koran can lawfully be written. And guess what? Most of these commentaries are written by Imams and most of them have been taught by radical Muslims.

Worldwide most Imams are self taught with no formal training. The typical Imam will be the oldest person in the community. There are no ordained clergy in Islam. Every Muslim will almost certainly be an Imam at some point in his life. Even if it is for just one Salat.

outhouse · Nov 4, 2014

Woodrow LI said:
Worldwide most Imams are self taught with no formal training. The typical Imam will be the oldest person in the community. There are no ordained clergy in Islam. Every Muslim will almost certainly be an Imam at some point in his life. Even if it is for just one Salat.

I always found this so troubling.

The lack of government reduces the possibility for the religion to evolve forward. It also allows people to run hog wild with belief and action.

Do you understand why the Koran is worthless towards any use for study of Jesus?

Woodrow LI · Nov 4, 2014

outhouse said:
I always found this so troubling.

The lack of government reduces the possibility for the religion to evolve forward. It also allows people to run hog wild with belief and action.

Do you understand why the Koran is worthless towards any use for study of Jesus?

It is not intended to be a Study of Jesus(as)

It is simply a condensed version of all previous revelations with the errors and mistranslations removed.

paarsurrey · Nov 5, 2014

Joseph Stephen said:
I would appreciate enlightenment on the following. I realise in Islam Jesus is accepted as one of the prophets, peace be upon them. How much of Jesus's life as recorded in the bible is accepted in Islam? For instance are the miracles believed and do Muslims believe He rose from the dead?
Looking forward to your replys.

Jesus did not die on the Cross in the first place. There is no question of Jesus' rising from the dead.
He survived death on the Cross against all odds.
This is the greatest miracle of Jesus' life.

Regards

Smart_Guy · Nov 5, 2014

Yeah, this thread should be in the Islam DIR. It is unfortunate how disrespectful and rude people can be when they get an opportunity to bash who or what they hate

All I see on the OP is questions on what Muslims believe on something specific, yet there are post on what they don't believe, or believe in unrelated stuff.

Why is it so difficult for some people to show good manners?

Christian20 · Nov 5, 2014

Jesus that is refered to in the Islam is not the same As Jesus in the Bible. They do often say "well we believe in too he is our prophet" it's the same as me saying:"well Mohammed is also in the Bible he is a betrayer" so that means the Mohammed i'm talking about is not the same as yours. Jesus in the Islam is just another prophet, when in the Bible Jesus is Jesus Christ our savior. He died on the cross for our sins, but the islam does not agree with that because if they did there would be no Islam.

Christian20 · Nov 5, 2014

paarsurrey said:
Jesus did not die on the Cross in the first place. There is no question of Jesus' rising from the dead.
He survived death on the Cross against all odds.
This is the greatest miracle of Jesus' life.

Regards

RAYYAN said:
That is a big fat Lie again, show me your reference
Shame on you, you are really think face

So not true lol.

Pastek · Nov 5, 2014

Joseph Stephen said:
How much of Jesus's life as recorded in the bible is accepted in Islam? For instance are the miracles believed and do Muslims believe He rose from the dead?

It's difficult to answer to that question. I would say that we can believe in general what is in the Bible concerning him, even though we are not sure about who really wrote the Gospel and who were the real followers of Jesus as in the Quran it never precises their names nor their number.

We don't believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus.
But for the rest, in Islam we can't reject completely what is in the Bible if it's not in contradiction with the Quran.
So to be clear we have the obligation to believe in God's Books (which are Thora, Psalms, Gospel) even though we don't believe they are out of intentional changes as stated in Surate 2.79 or errors.

For everything concerning Jesus in the Quran you can read the Surate 3 "Imran family" (Imran is the name of Mary's father) , Surate 5 "the Table spread" and Surate 19 "Mary".
(He is also briefly in some other surates).

Christian20 said:
JJesus in the Islam is just another prophet, when in the Bible Jesus is Jesus Christ our savior.

He is also the Messiah in Islam not just another prophet.

Christian20 said:
He died on the cross for our sins, but the islam does not agree with that because if they did there would be no Islam.

Jesus never said he died for our sins in the Bible.

Christian20 · Nov 5, 2014

Pastek said:
It's difficult to answer to that question. I would say that we can believe in general what is in the Bible concerning him, even though we are not sure about who really wrote the Gospel and who were the real followers of Jesus as in the Quran it never precises their names nor their number.

We don't believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus.
But for the rest, in Islam we can't reject completely what is in the Bible if it's not in contradiction with the Quran.
So to be clear we have the obligation to believe in God's Books (which are Thora, Psalms, Gospel) even though we don't believe they are out of intentional changes as stated in Surate 2.79 or errors.

For everything concerning Jesus in the Quran you can read the Surate 3 "Imran family" (Imran is the name of Mary's father) , Surate 5 "the Table spread" and Surate 19 "Mary".
(He is also briefly in some other surates).

He is also the Messiah in Islam not just another prophet.

Jesus never said he died for our sins in the Bible.

Still not the same Jesus as our Jesus Christ.
And yes Jesus did say he died on the cross in the bible.

You should watch this video it might clear some things up for you.

outhouse · Nov 5, 2014

Smart_Guy said:
Yeah, this thread should be in the Islam DIR. It is unfortunate how disrespectful and rude people can be when they get an opportunity to bash who or what they hate

Its not that brother.

It is just a matter of facts. There is no value or credibility or accuracy about jesus in the Koran.

Even the NT is tough to get information from that has value or credibility or accuracy.

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