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[ Jesus in not God with a logicl proof ]

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
God doesn't need a son, the man who created the 7 heavens or universes needs a mortal man to be his associate ? The father the son and the holy ghost, hes his own father ? Does that sound like the god of abraham ? God is one and hes sufficient.

You have no knowledge or understanding, why God send his Son. How Jesus is Almighty God.
God made Promise to Abraham that he
( God) would send his Son for Abraham,Isaac Jacob children.
Not Ishmael. For Abraham, Isaac, Jacob children. Not Ishmael.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
God doesn't need a son, the man who created the 7 heavens or universes needs a mortal man to be his associate ? The father the son and the holy ghost, hes his own father ? Does that sound like the god of abraham ? God is one and hes sufficient.


God of Abraham can do all things. He is Almighty God of Abraham.

God made souls, God made human body's encased souls in human body's.

God made human body Jesus,
God encased Himself in human body Jesus. God is Jesus.in human body Jesus.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Jesus never said that either. He never met jesus. Theres not a single shred of evidence.


So you say, but that does not change that Jesus chosen out Paul and all the disciples accepted Paul as a disciple with them.

Back to you also, there is not a single shred of evidence that Muhammad as a messenger.
Only Muhammad say, not good evidence.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Romans 6:23 - "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."


Had you understand the Spiritual discernment of Romans 6:23 it would read in the Spiritual Realm.
"For that wages of Satan is Death, But the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord"
It is unto whom you obye, whether Satan unto death or Christ Jesus unto life everlasting.
You can not server two masters.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Jesus is God, with logical proof.

God made souls, God made human bodies
God encased souls in human bodies

God made human body.
God encased Himself in human body.

God in human body of Jesus
Jesus is God.
God is Jesus.
 

McBell

Unbound
Jesus is God, with logical proof.

God made souls, God made human bodies
God encased souls in human bodies

God made human body.
God encased Himself in human body.

God in human body of Jesus
Jesus is God.
God is Jesus.
Except you merely present a list of bold empty claims....
 

Whitestone

Member
The Name Of Allah


First hello everyone

Now , have you heard about a god worships another god ?

is it possible to be a god worships god ???? think deeply about it ...

.... jesus is messenger from Allah , he is messenger like noah and solomon and mohamed .....
You say Jesus is a messenger?
Here is Jesus' message of Himself...

(Isa 9:6) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
(Isa 9:7) Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

(Isa 43:11) I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
(Isa 43:12) I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no strange god among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, that I am God.

(Joh 8:23) And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
(Joh 8:24) I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

(Php 2:5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
(Php 2:6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
(Php 2:7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
(Php 2:8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
(Php 2:9) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
(Php 2:10) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

If you say Jesus was a messenger, let it be known that this is the message of Himself... and to you...

(Rev 2:7) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

(1Jn 5:5) Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Lack of belief and faith in Christ Jesus as our Lord and Savior from Heaven, is the only thing that will destroy a man's body and soul in hell.

But He who overcomes this lack of Faith, shall then know Jesus Resurrected, Face to Face, as do we who tell you this wonderful message. For in Him, and Him only do we have Life Eternal. Such a joy!

Peace in Christ Jesus my friends
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Jesus never said that either. He never met jesus. Theres not a single shred of evidence.
Jesus never said that either. He never met jesus. Theres not a single shred of evidence.

There's not a singel shred of evidence that Muhammad be prophet, only silly wife of Muhammad read and write for him.

Allah is not all powerful, could not have Muhammad to read and write like all other Prophet's.
Paul could read and write, but Muhammad could not read and write had silly woman to read and write for him

Paul much better Prophet. Could read and write, had No silly woman to read and write for him.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
The Name Of Allah


First hello everyone

Now , have you heard about a god worships another god ?

is it possible to be a god worships god ???? think deeply about it ...

.... jesus is messenger from Allah , he is messenger like noah and solomon and mohamed .....

That's all because you have no knowledge or understanding of anything about Jesus.

Jesus is not like Noah or Solomon, Jesus is more than just a man.

But then you wouldn't know any of this.
Seeing your Qu'ran is limited in knowledge and understanding.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
That's all because you have no knowledge or understanding of anything about Jesus.

Jesus is not like Noah or Solomon, Jesus is more than just a man.

But then you wouldn't know any of this.
Seeing your Qu'ran is limited in knowledge and understanding.


Just as a word is the son of the mouth, Jesus is the eternal word and God's own perfect idea of Himself. The spirit being the Father's eternal love of the word,

Without Jesus from eternity, there is no one to love. Without the Trinity, power is primary. With the Trinity power, majesty, love, communication all make up God's glory from eternity past.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Just as a word is the son of the mouth, Jesus is the eternal word and God's own perfect idea of Himself. The spirit being the Father's eternal love of the word,

Without Jesus from eternity, there is no one to love. Without the Trinity, power is primary. With the Trinity power, majesty, love, communication all make up God's glory from eternity past.

Jesus is God the Father.
So how does this work.

Let's take back in the garden, When Jesus pray to God.
Now was Jesus praying to himself.
Or is there something that is very deep, That Jesus is revealing by him praying to God ?

So what is Jesus revealing ?
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Jesus is God the Father.
So how does this work.

Let's take back in the garden, When Jesus pray to God.
Now was Jesus praying to himself.
Or is there something that is very deep, That Jesus is revealing by him praying to God ?

So what is Jesus revealing ?

There is an 'Athenasian Trinity' and a 'Sybellian Trinity'
In the Sybellian trinity one God wears 3 hats, like a father, son and worker
In the Athenasian trinity three persons are in a tri-unity sharing one nature

I go with the second, the Athenasian as do almost all Protestants and Catholics
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
There is an 'Athenasian Trinity' and a 'Sybellian Trinity'
In the Sybellian trinity one God wears 3 hats, like a father, son and worker
In the Athenasian trinity three persons are in a tri-unity sharing one nature

I go with the second, the Athenasian as do almost all Protestants and Catholics


What you have is, The Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit.

All are one and the same God.
 
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