Redemptionsong
Well-Known Member
Well, before I answer about the shepherds, how about telling me what you think about worshiping? If you think I'm wrong about that, then I would suspect you'd think I'm wrong about everything I say. You certainly have the right, but it would not seem worth going on and on saying things you don't believe. On the other hand, if you think what I said about worshiping may be right, then it would indicate that you may be open to new ideas, ideas seldom taught in church but that you do see in the scriptures. I hope you understand.
Please don't take this as an I'm right and you are wrong. I don't mean it that way. I might even say, "why do you call me right? There is none right but God."
Here is what I said about worship:
There are several verses that talk about men being worshiped. The Hebrew word is "shachah."
Gen 23:7,
And Abraham stood up, and bowed (shachah) himself to the people of the land, [even] to the children of Heth.
Gen 27:29,
Let people serve thee, and nations bow down (shachah) to thee (Jacob): be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother's sons bow down to thee: cursed [be] every one that curseth thee, and blessed [be] he that blesseth thee.
Gen 42:6,
And Joseph [was] the governor over the land, [and] he [it was] that sold to all the people of the land: and Joseph's brethren came, and bowed down (shachah) themselves before him [with] their faces to the earth.
The translation "bowed" instead of "worship" once again shows the bias of the English translators. Apparently they thought, like many Christians today, that worship is reserved only for Yahweh. But here we have several men being "worshiped." Maybe we need to rethink what it means to worship.
God bless.
I understand all forms of worship, whether of man or God, to be a type of 'service'. Our service to both God and man should come from the heart, and should be in spirit (love) and in truth.
Our priority, I believe, is to serve God first, because God is truth. Our service to man should follow our faith and service to God. Once we have the righteousness of God within us, then we are 'furnished' to serve our neighbour.
Problems arise when our worship of alien 'gods' makes our singleness of love and service for the true God impossible to juggle. We cannot hope, for example, to live by faith in money, and at the same time serve Jesus Christ in singleness of heart and purpose. Self-seeking (in terms of greed, fame, and power) is never going to sit easily with the gospel of love in Christ.
Worship and service often appear together, as in Matthew 4:10.
Matthew 4:10. 'Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.'
To me, this fits perfectly with the requirement of God that all men should serve the Son of man, now that he is crowned KING OF KINGS.
Daniel 7:14. 'And there was given him [the Son of man] dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.'
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