The narrow gate is the balance between the two polarized opposites. Neither to the left or right. So then not hedonism nor asceticism but love all as self. Service to other as self.
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Jesus Isn't Returning
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Revelation Ch 5 That’s just a personal interpretation.
And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. 4 l I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
If a theist said. If I must claim I'm only human as dominion on earth. I am living on a planet exactly self formed first as my true teaching.
All forms the planet are a huge variable of rock types... stones... dirt...sands...dusts...minerals. And evil within its middle body.
No man is God was to thesis I don't have evil like god earth false father term inside my body. So I cannot be god.
But if you brother are such a destructive lying theist having used families murder torment slavery to wield control. I must explain to my family my real man's wisdom.
So that together we can regain families mutual equal rights.
The God within.....holy water.
Our bio life body percentile is mainly just water. Water pre exists in mass as created held as the water mass exact. The history of water is to water.
Within me is gods earths mineral dusts...holy dusts and not nuclear dusts as I'm not Sion nor any holy grail..nuclear God.
As my Constitution and body rights is biology only.
I taught CH that arose as CHrist is the heavenly interwoven intertwined spirit masses. A father body of many colours. Which is why I taught it as an inherited father earths mantle or cloak.
Not a conceiving body with mother womb...as father earth conceived immaculate clear spirit gas Inheritor with womb space mother.
Science evolved to a thesis status...don't use human titles as science references. My brother not a real scientist isn't intelligent enough to separate old philosophy only terms by comprehend Sion.
I now had to brain entrain him not to believe he was personally powerful. When being rich and in control says otherwise in his mind.
All forms the planet are a huge variable of rock types... stones... dirt...sands...dusts...minerals. And evil within its middle body.
No man is God was to thesis I don't have evil like god earth false father term inside my body. So I cannot be god.
But if you brother are such a destructive lying theist having used families murder torment slavery to wield control. I must explain to my family my real man's wisdom.
So that together we can regain families mutual equal rights.
The God within.....holy water.
Our bio life body percentile is mainly just water. Water pre exists in mass as created held as the water mass exact. The history of water is to water.
Within me is gods earths mineral dusts...holy dusts and not nuclear dusts as I'm not Sion nor any holy grail..nuclear God.
As my Constitution and body rights is biology only.
I taught CH that arose as CHrist is the heavenly interwoven intertwined spirit masses. A father body of many colours. Which is why I taught it as an inherited father earths mantle or cloak.
Not a conceiving body with mother womb...as father earth conceived immaculate clear spirit gas Inheritor with womb space mother.
Science evolved to a thesis status...don't use human titles as science references. My brother not a real scientist isn't intelligent enough to separate old philosophy only terms by comprehend Sion.
I now had to brain entrain him not to believe he was personally powerful. When being rich and in control says otherwise in his mind.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
So the middle way. Cool.
I have no clue why you're quoting chapter 5 of revelation. But an angel is a spiritual being where a man is a carnal being and dead. So those who are awake to the spirit of man can open, unseal the book about self.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Looking in at what?
I read the truth and don't try to explain it away.
It is true his Spirit has not gone anywhere, but soon he will be here in the flesh.
DNB
Christian
Yes, it is that complicated, and as @Redemptionsong said, you have incompetently chosen to isolate certain passages that are only a fraction of the picture as a whole. Not only did you not employ a comprehensive approach to exegeting the Scriptures, but the actual meaning behind the passages that you chose to support your position has entirely eluded you.
Yes, Christ is within all of us, provided that we remain in him, and even then, the significance of that principle is extremely difficult to understand, as the Apostles themselves were not perfect.
Your simplification of a very profound principle, that also, without a doubt is figurative, does absolutely no justice to Christ or the Gospel.
You're looking at the kingdom from outside. As if you have the ability to set the boundary to the kingdom. As if you unconsciously believe you can define God and heaven's limitations.
You have to be baptized in the father's name. The spirit isn't Jesus. The father isn't Jesus. The Son isn't exclusively jesus
As Jesus said, the flesh counts for nothing.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
How would you know how I'm looking at the kingdom?
And what does being baptized have to do with whether Jesus is coming back?
I define the kingdom by reading scripture not from my own understanding.
You been posting on here.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
Um, obviously?
Yeah like you haven't been pushing "your" interpretation and belief. John 14:20 has nothing to do with belief. The spirit of god is pantheistic. Isaiah 66:1 tell u that God fills the heaven's and earth. Jeremiah 23:24 also.
InChrist
Free4ever
That’s quite a spiritualized stretch and certainly does not appear to be the intended meaning or message of the scriptures.
InChrist
Free4ever
I see the change which takes place through the resurrection of Christ and those in Christ is that the physical body becomes glorified, as Jesus demonstrated...
“Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”
Like 24:39
Fawning over Jesus is the stretch.
Matthew 7:21-24
Where 2 or more are gathered in my name, there I AM.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
You said that you didn’t believe Christ would return, which is your interpretation of scripture. Revelation states that no man knows the true meanings of the books except the Lion of the Tribe of Judah.
So I was just pointing out that saying Christ won’t return is an individual interpretation which Revelation does not support. The only One Who truly can unseal the meaning of the books is the Lion of Judah not you or I or anyone in heaven or earth.
So biblical interpretations by individuals I take with a grain of salt as they have been a cause of deep division. The Lion on the other hand, only His interpretations are authoritative and infallible.
Hope this clears up my previous answer,
Redemptionsong
Well-Known Member
Yes, l agree that a resurrected body is a glorified body, as you say.
But, as we see from the context, the 'spirit' spoken about in Luke is a ghost, and is not a reference to a glorified spiritual body. A resurrected person has been changed from corruption to incorruption, or from mortality to immortality. This is the same as saying that a person has been changed from natural to spiritual. Paul uses all these expressions in 1 Corinthians 15.
Interestingly, when Jesus raised the dead during his ministry, such as his friend Lazarus, there was no such spiritual glorification of the body. In such cases, the body remained corruptible. Lazarus would have died at a later date, and then his soul would have descended into the grave (to Abraham's bosom) to await the first resurrection, when Christ returns to gather his faithful (also termed 'the rapture').