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Jesus, Liberal or Conservative

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?

I would say liberal.

Why? Because per Jesus, an individual human could not take responsibility for their own sin/evil doings. They were not on their own able to correct their negative proclivities.
Humans needed a higher authority to keep them in line. To be there to correct their misbehavior. Without this higher authority, it would be impossible for the individual human to be moral.

If Jesus were conservative, he'd have been more the "you break it, you fix it" kind of prophet. He would have insisted that the individual take responsibility for their own misdeeds and not go about telling people to let someone else pay the price for their errors.
 

Left Coast

This Is Water
Staff member
Premium Member
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?

"Conservative" and "liberal" are broad terms with multiple possible meanings. If you mean conservative and liberal in the modern American political sense, I would say neither. His paradigm would have been completely off the map of either ideology.
 

Exaltist Ethan

Bridging the Gap Between Believers and Skeptics
The way things work, conservatives become liberal, and liberals adapt new ideas from thin air. Some of those liberal ideas work, others don't, and over time, if they work, they get adapted by conservatives. Jesus was a liberal during his day and age, but his message was adopted by the right-wing because it worked so well. I mean, we can do the "woke" test. Is Jesus part of the LGBT crowd? No. Is Jesus a minority? No. In fact, he established a religion that has become the majority since his death. Conservatives respect institutions of hierarchy, and since Jesus established that hierarchy for himself only, he is valued by many on the right, despite his message of empathy being respected by many on the left.

In short, Jesus was able to find the respect of the left and the right for different, but equal, reasons.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?
Without a doubt, "liberal", which in part led to his crucifixion.

And he still would be a liberal today and undoubtedly unwelcome in probably most of the "religious right" churches today. His orientation would likely be far more socialistic [not Marxist though] than dog-eat-dog capitalistic.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Is Jesus a minority? No.

I disagree. While the religion founded on his teachings might be the world's largest religion, in Jesus's time, his thoughts and teachings were only accepted by a minority. So, as far as go as his personal beliefs, in holding them, he was at that time a minority. I think you could relate to that. :D

I'd like to hope Jesus wouldn't align himself with American politics, on either side, but continue to try to serve a greater population, regardless of how they vote...
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?
Conservative. He was an "uphold the law", "not an iota will change" type of guy.
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
The closest Jesus came to advocating for any political policies in the gospel accounts was telling people to pay their taxes.

Any political position you ascribe to him on top of that becomes more of a Rorshach test for you and less of a description of Jesus's actual worldview.

This is besides the fact that the descriptions of Jesus in each gospel account, and as described by Paul, can essentially be treated as separate characters given how much they differ. And they have been treated as separate characters by some historical critiques.
 
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Sand Dancer

Currently catless
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?

I can't imagine living out a radical love, of putting the spirit of the law over the letter of the law, putting the last first, and putting people over dogma as being conservative.
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
I would say liberal.

Why? Because per Jesus, an individual human could not take responsibility for their own sin/evil doings. They were not on their own able to correct their negative proclivities.
Humans needed a higher authority to keep them in line. To be there to correct their misbehavior. Without this higher authority, it would be impossible for the individual human to be moral.

If Jesus were conservative, he'd have been more the "you break it, you fix it" kind of prophet. He would have insisted that the individual take responsibility for their own misdeeds and not go about telling people to let someone else pay the price for their errors.

I've re-typed my reply to this comment a few times, but I'll just leave it at this:

I don't buy the link between conservativism and personal responsibility. My personal experience actually seems to indicate an inverse correlation.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I've re-typed my reply to this comment a few times, but I'll just leave it at this:

I don't buy the link between conservativism and personal responsibility. My personal experience actually seems to indicate an inverse correlation.

To me, there is no link. Just individuals.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I have not come to do away with or lessen the Laws or Prophets sounds very conservative to me.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?
Jesus was politically neutral. Jesus and his 1st-century followers did Not even get involved in the issues of the day between the Jews and Romans but remained politically neutral.
 
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