jesus miracles outdated

[logician]

I don't see Jesus' miracles as outdated as much as they are not much proof of anything. But I don't see that as a problem of Jesus or Christianity, but just miracles generally.

Miracles really don't prove anything. Every religion has them, it really only is proof for people who were there as witnesses, and even then you never know maybe it was done with mirrors.

Jesus real miracle might be the Gospel itself. I mean, who after the Crucifixion would predict that 2000 years later Christianity would be the most numerous and widespread religion, with such a global reach?

I think P.T. Barnum said it best.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Jesus real miracle might be the Gospel itself. I mean, who after the Crucifixion would predict that 2000 years later Christianity would be the most numerous and widespread religion, with such a global reach?

Where did Yeshua make such a prediction?

 

[Ringer]

Yes, but they were not eyewitnesses to any of these miracles, nor were the people who wrote about them. This puts them at the level of hearsay, whicih is to say, they are fiction.

Many historians were not witnesses to the Civil War either but to say it was fiction wouldn't be the smartest thing to proclaim.

 

[logician]

Many historians were not witnesses to the Civil War either but to say it was fiction wouldn't be the smartest thing to proclaim.

Yes, but there are many that were. There are no historians comtemporary to the time of the supposed Christ that write about such a man.

 

[Booko]

I think P.T. Barnum said it best.

Yes, he did. Sometimes it applies to people who pretend to be logical.

 

[Booko]

Where did Yeshua make such a prediction?

He didn't. Were you confusing the concept of "miracle" with a prediction?

I don't know of any contemporary of his who would've guessed such a thing.

 

[crystalonyx]

Yes, he did. Sometimes it applies to people who pretend to be logical.

You shouldn't put yourself down like that.

 

[methylatedghosts]

It's kinda hard for me to take post like this seriously when there are so many spelling errors.

Because THAT is what really matters in a debate!

 

[SaveMeJebus]

we dont need to.
we now have the belief in ufo's, ghosts etc.....thats all the mystical nonsense that a society now needs

i would sooner believe in aliens then a book from thousands of years ago at least they are trying to get proof of UFO's.

 

[Ringer]

Because THAT is what really matters in a debate!

I'm a spelling Nazi so what can I say? I'm working on it. We meet on Thursday nights right after the AA meetings.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Jesus was just a crazy magician in my opinion many people said they were the son of god then jesus was just believed because he had 'special powers' how else would he manipulate the weak minded.

 

[Ringer]

Jesus was just a crazy magician in my opinion many people said they were the son of god then jesus was just believed because he had 'special powers' how else would he manipulate the weak minded.

Where did Jesus get these special powers from?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Where did Jesus get these special powers from?

Probably the same place Pharaoh and his boys got theirs...I don't know cracker jack prize maybe.....

Actually, according to your scripture Yeshua had no powers until his god gave them to him.