Jesus story isn't original

[fallingblood]

Your argument is fallacious, just as my example demonstrated the same type of fallacy. It doesn't prove that Jesus was not historical, it simply demonstrates that mythological characters are not necessarily based on historical characters just because one can provide an example of one that might very well be.

Again, I was not arguing that since Apollonius existed, Jesus did. What I'm pointing out is that we know that certain historical figures did in fact have mythological characteristics attributed to them afterwards. Thus, just because they have mythological characteristics it does not mean that they did not exist.

This means that one of the most used arguments against the historical Jesus simply is illogical.

 

[Oberon]

He does have some interesting perspectives, though, being the discoverer of the "Secret" Gospel of Mark

That wasn't Koester. If Secret Mark was discovered, not created (see e.g. Ehrman, B. (2003). "Response to Charles Hedrick's Stalemate." Journal of Early Christian Studies 11(2): 155-163.), then it was Morton Smith, not Koester.

 

[Watchmen]

Why would god speak of other gods like Zeus when he is a jealous god?

Obviously you didn't understand my post. God has been teaching us from the beginning. Man modifies the story to fit their culture.

 

[Politesse]

You're entirely correct, my apologies. Koester is well known for publishing on the Secret Mark issue, I had gotten the two men confused.

 

[dogsgod]

Again, I was not arguing that since Apollonius existed, Jesus did. What I'm pointing out is that we know that certain historical figures did in fact have mythological characteristics attributed to them afterwards.

Some certainly did.

Thus, just because they have mythological characteristics it does not mean that they did not exist.

Absolutely.

This means that one of the most used arguments against the historical Jesus simply is illogical.

I've never known it to be used off hand and I would agree that it's simply illogical. Just as stupid and illogical an argument as pointing out that Augustus et al had virgin birth stories attached to them thereby considering it's just as reasonable to consider that Jesus was historical, and that little chestnut of a fallacy has been used on these boards ad nauseum.