Jesus talked to himself?

[Kolibri]

Is it not a little insulting to Christianity to deny the triune God and attempt to explain away the truth of the Christian Bible?

Catholics wrote the books of the New Testament. Who other than the Catholic Church could understand and teach them more accurately?

If Catholics wrote the Bible books, why are they written from the perspective of eyewitness accounts or letters of people living in the 1st Century? If the Bible is to be at all be considered authoritative, would it make any sense to believe they were somehow compilations of ghost writers from later periods of time?

If they were all ghost written, something that was not even done in the Hebrew Scriptures, of what value are they? We can then just pick and chose what has any value to us based on how it makes us feel, like a piece of art in the way the words have shaped history and culture only.

If, as the books self-suggest or claim, are written in the 1st Century, they predate the use of the term catholic as a denomination.

 

[Forever_Catholic]

f Catholics wrote the Bible books, why are they written from the perspective of eyewitness accounts or letters of people living in the 1st Century? If the Bible is to be at all be considered authoritative, would it make any sense to believe they were somehow compilations of ghost writers from later periods of time?

If they were all ghost written, something that was not even done in the Hebrew Scriptures, of what value are they? We can then just pick and chose what has any value to us based on how it makes us feel, like a piece of art in the way the words have shaped history and culture only.

If, as the books self-suggest or claim, are written in the 1st Century, they predate the use of the term catholic as a denomination.

Most people have no idea how old the name “Catholic Church” is.

Right at first, the Church was referred to as “the Way” because Jesus said “I am the way and the truth and the life.” (John 14:6) But probably by the end of the first century, it was named the “Catholic Church” (from Greek, meaning universal). This was to emphasize its world-wide scope, because Jesus also had said, “Teach all nations.” (Matthew 28:19).

The earliest known appearance of the word in writing was in the year 107 in a letter from Saint Ignatius of Antioch to the Smyrnaeans in which he said “Wherever the bishop is, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” This name was obviously in use before the letter was written; we just don’t know for how long.

Saint Ignatius was a disciple of Saint John the Apostle and became the Bishop of Antioch. He is among the Fathers of the Church, as we call those who actually heard the oral teachings of the apostles and passed on what they learned from them as Sacred Tradition.

All the apostles, disciples, converts, martyrs, and every Christian in the New Testament from Saint Peter on are Catholic, even those who died before the name was chosen, because it's the same Church as the Way.

 

[Theweirdtophat]

I never understood that if Jesus is God the Son and an equal aspect of God, along with God the Father and The Holy Spirit, why does Jesus blatantly admit that God is superior to him and that he serves him the best he can and others should as well? It's off topic but it made me think along with his other quote in the original post that made me think that Jesus and God are separate, not one.

 

[atpollard]

I never understood that if Jesus is God the Son and an equal aspect of God, along with God the Father and The Holy Spirit, why does Jesus blatantly admit that God is superior to him and that he serves him the best he can and others should as well? It's off topic but it made me think along with his other quote in the original post that made me think that Jesus and God are separate, not one.

(copied from a post asking a similar question)
All these questions ask about the relationship between the Father and the Son and basically want to know ...
How can they be described in such unequal terms and we Trinitarians claim them to be equal?

A great question ... let's see if I can muster even a fair answer.

1 Corinthians 11:
2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. ​

I hope you will allow me to claim that the relationship between God and Christ, Christ and Man, and Man and Woman are presented in very similar terms.
I would even dare to suggest that Paul wants me to examine these relationships by comparing them to each other ... my wife is to respect me just like Christ respects God ... I am to love my wife just like God loves Christ.

Are women inferior to men?
In Genesis, God created both Man and Woman ... with his bare hands I might add ... God took this task very personally.
God made Woman from the 'side' of Adam.
I propose that Woman is made from exactly the same stuff as Man ... by God ... equally precious ... equally holy ... equally fit for the purpose that God created them.
To worship God and be loved by God.

The submission of a wife to a husband is an act love ... to which the husband is called to respond with the same sort of self sacrifice that Christ demonstrated for the church (believers).
There is a covering of governance and a willing submission out of love and not due to any innate superiority/inferiority.

In the same way, Father and Son are equal ... both omnipotent, omniscient, holy, perfect, eternal, loving ... and in love, the Son submits to the Father (as the wife to the husband) ... and in love, the Father covers the Son (as the husband covers the wife).
That is how the Son demonstrates his love through submission without being in any way inferior.
That is how the Father covers in love without being in any way superior.

 

[Quagmire]

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