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Jesus was ever married?

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Awoon said:
The Aramaic scholar George Lamsa said that it was hinted by the language of Aramaic that Jesus could have been married.
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Can you send me a source, please?
George Lamsa translation says:

14 And Jesus came to the Simon’s house, and he saw his mother-in-law laid up and sick with fever
15 And he touched her hand, and the fever left her, and she got up and waited on them.


However, the translation here still seems quite vague. Unless Simon Peter is Jesus' brother or brother-in-law, then why would Jesus' mother-in-law be in someone else's house?

And like you said, a 30 year old unmarried Rabbi in the 1st millenium would have raised a few eyebrows.
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I agree.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
doppelgänger;2598772 said:
On the other hand, the lifestyle he kept, as depicted in the stories about him, doesn't seem like it would be conducive to a marriage.
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we know little about historical jesus

and if were talking about marriage I think it would be in that historical context

your right it isnt conducive to the theology as it grew
 
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outhouse said:
we know little about historical jesus
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That's why I don't talk about "historical jesus." I talk about a series of characters by that name in several stories written about him by different authors apparently each having different points to make through their stories. Setting aside "historical jesus" as we pretty much have to, none of the stories indicate one way or the other if "Jesus" was married.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
doppelgänger;2598814 said:
That's why I don't talk about "historical jesus." I talk about a series of characters by that name in several stories written about him by different authors apparently each having different points to make through their stories. Setting aside "historical jesus" as we pretty much have to, none of the stories indicate one way or the other if "Jesus" was married.
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exactly why I find it plausible it could have been edited out and or not included
 
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Awoon said:
The Aramaic scholar George Lamsa said that it was hinted by the language of Aramaic that Jesus could have been married. And like you said, a 30 year old unmarried Rabbi in the 1st millenium would have raised a few eyebrows.
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Depends on which sect he belonged to.

We have three accounts of the Essenes: from Pliny, Philo, and Josephus, and if I remember correctly two of those have the Essenes as a group abstaining from marriage.

Not saying Jesus was an Essene, just that the idea of an unmarried Jewish man in 1st cent. Judea wasn't unheard of.
 
Tellurian

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The historical Jesus would not have been allowed to get married, because he would have been considered a mamzer, and the law would have forbidden his getting married.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Tellurian said:
The historical Jesus would not have been allowed to get married, because he would have been considered a mamzer, and the law would have forbidden his getting married.
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wrong

he was not always a so called prophet, he was a tekton by trade.

no problem with a tekton having a wife
 
Tellurian

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outhouse said:
wrong

he was not always a so called prophet, he was a tekton by trade.

no problem with a tekton having a wife
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A mamzer was an illegitimate child who was not the husband's child, and according to the law in Deuteronomy was not allowed to marrying into the congregation of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 23:2 A ******* shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

From Mamzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The biblical rule against certain people becoming part of the congregation of the Lord[7] was interpreted in the Talmudic as a prohibition against ordinary Jews marrying such people. Although the biblical passage includes in this up to the tenth generation of the descendants of a mamzer, classical rabbis interpreted this as an idiom meaning forever. Thus, in traditional Jewish religious law, a mamzer and his or her descendants are not allowed to marry a Jewish spouse.
 
outhouse

outhouse

Atheistically
Tellurian said:
A mamzer was an illegitimate child who was not the husband's child, and according to the law in Deuteronomy was not allowed to marrying into the congregation of the Lord.

Deuteronomy 23:2 A ******* shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

From Mamzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The biblical rule against certain people becoming part of the congregation of the Lord[7] was interpreted in the Talmudic as a prohibition against ordinary Jews marrying such people. Although the biblical passage includes in this up to the tenth generation of the descendants of a mamzer, classical rabbis interpreted this as an idiom meaning forever. Thus, in traditional Jewish religious law, a mamzer and his or her descendants are not allowed to marry a Jewish spouse.
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I know what a mamzer is lol

his birth history was added much later and has zero historicity

was his dad really joseph or roman guard we will never know.
 
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doppelgänger;2598772 said:
On the other hand, the lifestyle he kept, as depicted in the stories about him, doesn't seem like it would be conducive to a marriage.
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Yeah, that's one of the problems with it. I guess there are multiple possibilities that could have happened.

For example, his wife could have passed away, or they got divorced, or something like that. It could have been his wife travelled with him, though, for all we know, Mary of Magdala could have been his wife - something I've seen plugged on various documentary shows.

There's no way of knowing, of course, and it's pure hypothetical scenarios on my part. Still, though, fun to discuss. :D
 
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