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Jesus will return in 2030

adam45

Member
Why I believe Jesus will return no later than 2030.

Epistle of Barnabas, Chapter 15
Further, also, it is written concerning the Sabbath in the Decalogue which [the Lord] spoke, face to face, to Moses on Mount Sinai, “And sanctify ye the Sabbath of the Lord with clean hands and a pure heart.” And He says in another place, “If my sons keep the Sabbath, then will I cause my mercy to rest upon them.” The Sabbath is mentioned at the beginning of the creation [thus]: “And God made in six days the works of His hands, and made an end on the seventh day, and rested on it, and sanctified it.” Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, “He finished in six days.” This implieth that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifieth, saying, “Behold, to-day will be as a thousand years.” Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. “And He rested on the seventh day.” This meaneth: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day.
Proponents
Early church premillennialism may be rooted in prior orthodox Jewish thought. Early premillennialists included Pseudo-Barnabas,[5] Papias,[6] Methodius, Lactantius,[7] Commodianus[8] Theophilus, Tertullian,[9] Melito,[10] Hippolytus of Rome, Victorinus of Pettau,[11][12] as well as various Gnostic groups and the Montanists. Many of these theologians and others in the early church expressed their belief in premillennialism through their acceptance of this sexta-septamillennial tradition. This belief claims that human history will continue for 6,000 years and then will enjoy Sabbath for 1,000 years (the millennial kingdom), thus all of human history will have a total of 7,000 years prior to the new creation. Christians throughout history have often considered that some thousand-year Sabbath, expected to begin six thousand years after Creation, might be identical with the millennium described in the Book of Revelation. This view was also popular among 19th- and 20th-century dispensational premillennialists. The term "Sabbatism" or "Sabbatizing" (Greek Sabbatismos), which generically means any literal or spiritual Sabbath-keeping, has also been taken in the Epistle to the Hebrews (Hebrews 4:9) to have special reference to this definition.

Support for the theory
The main support for this view is found in the passages regarding the original Sabbath system that the Judeo-Christian-God instituted, while also taking the verses of Psalms 90:4[13] and 2 Peter 3:8[14] into consideration. According to the proponents of the theory, Book of Hosea 6:1-2[15] demonstrates that after two days, the Lord will revive Israel, and on the third day, restore her and live with her forever.[2] According to these Christians, Jesus has indeed been gone for two millennia.[2] He was crucified during a time of severe Roman oppression that was directed towards Israel, which eventually caused the dispersion of Israel in the 1st century AD. Counting the first two days as two millenniums, and the third day as the Millennium in which Christ reigns on Earth may invariably lead to the conclusion that Jesus will return soon - most likely within the 21st century. It is this perception of Bible prophecy that provides the motivation to create a theory that is rooted in absolute Biblical literalism and is entirely based on Premillennialism.

Additional support for the theory can be found in the Apocrypha. The Book of Jubilees records the end of the life of Adam in chapter four. Jubilees 4:29-30 "And at the close of the nineteenth jubilee, in the seventh week in the sixth year [930 A.M.] thereof, Adam died, and all his sons buried him in the land of his creation, and he was the first to be buried in the earth. And he lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: 'On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die.' For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it." This theory has led some Christians to make a connection between the "Day of the Lord," the "Last Day," the "Sabbath," and the 1000-year reign of Christ, seeing them as synonyms. However, this interpretation is not widely held at this time.
 
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Dave Watchman

Active Member
Why I believe Jesus will return no later than 2030.

I'm with Ya. No latter, maybe before, 2030.

This belief claims that human history will continue for 6,000 years and then will enjoy Sabbath for 1,000 years (the millennial kingdom), thus all of human history will have a total of 7,000 years prior to the new creation. Christians throughout history have often considered that some thousand-year Sabbath, expected to begin six thousand years after Creation, might be identical with the millennium described in the Book of Revelation. This view was also popular among 19th- and 20th-century dispensational premillennialists. The term "Sabbatism" or "Sabbatizing" (Greek Sabbatismos), which generically means any literal or spiritual Sabbath-keeping, has also been taken in the Epistle to the Hebrews (Hebrews 4:9) to have special reference to this definition.

CJ Lovit does a bunch of videos on this. He thinks it's 2031 and subtracts a 7 year tribulation, so suggests the tribulation begins in 2024. I think the last 7 years started already, it's been happening and we're already towards the end of it. It's been like a tribulation of the Matrix, people can still be walking around doing their day to day activities like things are normal while the Two Witnesses have been laying dead in the streets, but it's not been normal times..

Which will be fun if I'm right because it means we won't need a big prepper's supply of stuff to get through it.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
I wish he could come a little early. I am 82, don't know if I will be around till 2030.

That raises a question I wonder about. Would people like to be alive when it happens, or not let it be on their watch and to die a normal death like all the rest of history. I wonder if God wants specific people alive at that time? I saw this news of Dick Van Dyke, I didn't even think he was still alive, but looks sharp for 98 in this paparazzo video.


I have a side bet theory God is keeping Norman Greenbaum, (age 81), alive for this very reason. His tune, along with Bad Moon Rising, had a peculiar specification.

We should soon see.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 
Well, if you want to make a bet on this 2030 return, I'll be happy to take your money.

Even back when I was an evangelical Christian, there was this piece of bible to consider: Matthew 25:13 “Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.” I'm guessing the OP might argue that the year is a different matter.:)
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Why I believe Jesus will return no later than 2030.
Haven't you guys read The Late Great planet Earth, by Hal Lyndsey, published in 1977? He said the End Times was going to happen in the late 80's. He wrote a follow up book in the 1990's with new predictions. Oops.

But on the plus side I don't blame Jesus for waiting until 2030 to avoid Trump.
 
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InChrist

Free4ever
It means that a Christian's ability to interpret "the signs" is completely unreliable, which is why nobody pays them any attention.
It does mean that some Christians have misinterpreted the scriptures and incorrectly set dates. But that doesn’t mean the prophecies or the promise of Jesus to return are not going to occur and worth paying attention to, in my view.



“Watch therefore, for you do not know whathour your Lord is coming. 43 But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into. 44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.”
Matthew 24:22-24


“…knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”

“But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:3-4; 8-9
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
It does mean that some Christians have misinterpreted the scriptures and incorrectly set dates. But that doesn’t mean the prophecies or the promise of Jesus to return are not going to occur and worth paying attention to, in my view.
If you want to believe Jesus is coming back, more power to you.

I just don't want to hear any more "The signs are here! He is almost here!"
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
So, does that mean it won’t happen?
Well, according to Charvaks of Buddha's time*, it does not happen. They said:
"Bhasmibhootasya dehasya, punaragamanam kutah?"
(After the body is reduced to ashes, where is the return coming?)
Ashes: For Abrahamics, burial.

* Samannaphala Sutta mentions Ajita Kesakambali, who is supposed to have been a Charvaka.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Well, according to Charvaks of Buddha's time*, it does not happen. They said:
"Bhasmibhootasya dehasya, punaragamanam kutah?"
(After the body is reduced to ashes, where is the return coming?)
Ashes: For Abrahamics, burial.

* Samannaphala Sutta mentions Ajita Kesakambali, who is supposed to have been a Charvaka.
That’s an interesting perspective. I appreciate you sharing. But I have no reason to believe the view or validity of teachings on the subject of Jesus resurrection or return, according Charvaks.
 
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