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Jewish Afterlife

chevron1

Active Member
let me try this again. i was accused of being off-topic, but i really would like to talk about the jewish afterlife and to have a discussion about the jewish afterlife, because the jewish afterlife affects even christians and muslims, not just the jews. let's see if i can remain on topic.

moderator: if i am off-topic again, i apologize. please let me know how it was off-topic. i will begin with my first post about the movie promised land.

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i have heard that the movie promised land starring matt damon is about jewish afterlife (it actually is about a town being hoodwinked by a gas company). you will find this so funny: that picture of matt damon on the poster is supposed to suggest the jewish messiah! the way he's posing, the composition, all suggest messiah. he's not jesus, who by some is believed to be the messiah who will lead the jewish people to afterlife, because jesus in the movie symbolically is a false messiah. several characters in the movie represent christianity.

i thought i'd just mention it because that movie is full of lovely scenes of jewish afterlife, bucolic scenes that could be representations of the "promised land" of torah.

promisedland_poster.jpg
 
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rosends

Well-Known Member
let me try this again. i was accused of being off-topic, but i really would like to talk about the jewish afterlife and to have a discussion about the jewish afterlife, because the jewish afterlife affects even christians and muslims, not just the jews. let's see if i can remain on topic.

moderator: if i am off-topic again, i apologize. please let me know how it was off-topic. i will begin with my first post about the movie promised land.

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i have heard that the movie promised land starring matt damon is about jewish afterlife (it actually is about a town being hoodwinked by a gas company). you will find this so funny: that picture of matt damon on the poster is supposed to suggest the jewish messiah! the way he's posing, the composition, all suggest messiah. he's not jesus, who by some is believed to be the messiah who will lead the jewish people to afterlife, because jesus in the movie symbolically is a false messiah. several characters in the movie represent christianity.

i thought i'd just mention it because that movie is full of lovely scenes of jewish afterlife, bucolic scenes that could be representations of the "promised land" of torah.

promisedland_poster.jpg
I don't know where you heard this. Any of it. It is completely false.
 

chevron1

Active Member
among other things.

the promised land was not the land over the river jordan because god never gave it to them; otherwise, they would have had it free and clear.

William Smith:

The Jewish heaven was the "Promised Land;" the idea of being "buried in the sepulchres of their fathers" was their future existence.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
the promised land was not the land over the river jordan because god never gave it to them; otherwise, they would have had it free and clear.

William Smith:

The Jewish heaven was the "Promised Land;" the idea of being "buried in the sepulchres of their fathers" was their future existence.
The promised land is the land of Israel. A quote from 1839 from some guy writing in London who provides no proofs for his claim isn't especially persuasive.
 

chevron1

Active Member
The promised land is the land of Israel. A quote from 1839 from some guy writing in London who provides no proofs for his claim isn't especially persuasive.

from 1839? what do you mean? i was talking about why there is strife in israel if the land is theirs from god. if it is from god, how can there be strife?

the sepulcres mean that the land is their future land, their afterlife land.
 
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rosends

Well-Known Member
from 1839? what do you mean? i was talking about why there is strife in israel if the land is theirs from god. if it is from god, how can there be strife?

the sepulcres mean that the land is their future land, their afterlife land.
that text you quoted was from an 1839 article. There is strife because the political entity known as the state of Israel is not the same as a theocratic, messianic era Israel.

https://books.google.com/books?id=e...r fathers" was their future existence&f=false
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I personally could never understand what is so special about gods so called promised land Israel. like there is much more beautiful places on the earth than Israel.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
where is the messianic era israel? it is not anywhere because it never existed. if it existed, where is it?

it is in the afterlife, is it not?
as the messiah hasn't come yet, we haven't achieved a messianic era anything. When the nation entered Israel which was promised to them and controlled it through Solomon's lifetime, that was a promised land. Now, we don't have that. We look forward to when we have it again.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
if there are more beautiful places, then it must be afterlife. that's the promised land, the afterlife, the most beautiful place for jews.
Ha, its only their promise place because their scribes wrote it so, thousands of years of believing something is hard to question, and even harder to admit its wrong.
 

chevron1

Active Member
When the nation entered Israel which was promised to them and controlled it through Solomon's lifetime.....

solomon did not control it. he merely occupied the land what was not the legitimate promised land. promised land is afterlife land.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
there is afterlife. the afterlife is the promised land. that's what we've been talking about. are you saying that jews have no afterlife in god's life?
I don't care what the Jews believe, I am speaking for myself in this particular reply.
 
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