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Jewish fanaticism.

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outhouse

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Electricity on Shabbat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Many Jews who strictly observe Shabbat (the Sabbath), especially within Orthodox Judaism, refrain from what is considered turning electricity on or off during Shabbat. They may also refrain from making adjustments to the intensity of electrical appliances. Various rabbinical authorities have pronounced on what is permitted and what is not, but there are many disagreements in detailed interpretation, both between different individual authorities and between branches of Judaism
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Is this or is this not fanaticism, that is the question?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

Akivah

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xmas trees are "socially normal"

Religious laws limiting ones use of electricity are factually "not socially normal" as a whole.

Ah, I see. A socially normal practice is defined as one that you do.
Many links have been posted to xmas tree fires that have killed people. Is it socially normal for xmas trees to kill Christian children?
 

rosends

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Its pretty simple here. Drop the dangerous practice no one lese follows



QUIT LEAVING STUFF ON all night because your religion wont give you freedom !
So I'll unplug my CO2 detector -- it relies on electricity left on overnight. Very dangerous.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
An accidental tragedy occurred. .

Yes and you are all placing more important on defending a ultra orthodox practice, then making any kind of change that would stop these senseless children deaths.

We should be extending our condolences instead of pursuing our agendas

My only agenda is to try and stop this from happening again.

Why is a day so important that you have to risk the lives of your children, when allowing a practice normal Jews do, would solve the problem.
 

rosends

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In the day time like normal families. You know that socially accepted practice called cooking.


Not leaving a hotplate on all night to make a deity happy
You presented it as a replacement for the hotplate. Now you change your mind. OK. You also thought it had to do with warming kids up on a freezing day. As you learn, you change your mind. That's ok.

When I leave my electric heater plugged in overnight to keep my house warm, I will remember that you think I should freeze.
 

rosends

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I see fanaticism when you no true Scotsman so often.

Your not helping your own kind.
I see fanaticism when you make false binaries, make pronouncements that are inaccurate and make suggestions that aren't relevant. You are accusing me of the NTS fallacy. Where exactly do you see that?
 

outhouse

Atheistically
. A socially normal practice is defined as one that you do.

YOU have been more civil then your counterparts, since you have been here I have never had issue, and I often defend Judaism.

So don't act like im the one with the problem.


A socially accepted practice is one held by most people. You know, ones that don't kill 7 children because their religion wont let them use electricity with freedom ALL OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
 

rosends

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I never said keep the dang thing on all night. NOR implied it.


Quit defending something not socially acceptable or even safe.
So you recommend sing the stove but not as a replacement for the hotplate? When you said "would it kill their god to let them use the stove when its freezing outside?" I just assumed that you meant to use it in place of the technology which they used. You meant it in a completely unrelated context. I can see why you would have suggested it, considering it was irrelevant.

And by the way, you have yet to show any documentation which states that leaving a hotplate on overnight is inherently unsafe.
 

rosends

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I bet you do see it.

To bad you don't know the definition, EVEN after I posted it in this thread for you.
I don't know the definition? Oh. OK...
" belief or behavior involving uncritical zeal or with an obsessive enthusiasm for a pastime or hobby."

As in, your obsessive attacks on religious practice are hallmarks of your anti-religious fanaticism.
 

Akivah

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Im saying ultra orthodox Jews are even looked at as fanatical by other Jews.

That's the first time in this thread that I've seen you write this statement. If that's what you're trying to say, you're doing a bad job of it.

And these 7 kids died because their parents were orthodox Jews who were doing something dangerous, normal people would not do, because they have freedom to use electricity as needed.

Thousands of people die in household accidents every year. Injury and Fatality Statistics - ESFi :: Electrical Safety Foundation International and the majority of them are not Jewish. As has been referenced in this thread, the fire occurred because the appliance malfunctioned. Your desire to tie this tragedy to their religion is illogical.
 
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