Jewish Rabbi admits Islam is the oldest Religion.

[Jedster]

Hi Folks...

lol - that above is ENTIRELY back to front then lol

See the JUDAIC aspect came first - THEY worshipped the monotheistic god FIRST before Islam was ever conceived - therefore ACTUALLY all so called "muslims" are ACTUALLY JEWS and this IS undeniable given the logic presented above...

Still - it matter not - as NONE of them know my Father or worship the true Divine as revealed by Christ alone - the label they choose to call themselves can not alter this fact

Well this is a DIR, so you may get arrested. Nudge nudge wink wink.

 

[Tumah]

This is just explainations

Yeah, I'm explaining what the guy in the video is saying.

 

[Godobeyer]

Yeah, I'm explaining what the guy in the video is saying.

Now ,I want to know where is the problem with what he said in video?

 

[Tumah]

Now ,I want to know where is the problem with what he said in video?

There is no problem with what he said in the video. But since no one here has a background in Jewish ideas, they can mistake what he was saying. So I explained it in a way that everyone can understand.

 

[Godobeyer]

There is no problem with what he said in the video. But since no one here has a background in Jewish ideas, they can mistake what he was saying. So I explained it in a way that everyone can understand.

Personally I don't see any different about what you said or @faroukfarouk said and what rabbi said in video !

 

[Tumah]

Personally I don't see any different about what you said or @faroukfarouk said and what rabbi said in video !

I didn't see faroukfarouk sayanything whatsoever on this thread. Except for the title which is mistaken. But either way, Great! So my explanation was for other people who aren't as smart as you.

 

[Godobeyer]

I didn't see faroukfarouk sayanything whatsoever on this thread. Except for the title which is mistaken. But either way, Great! So my explanation was for other people who aren't as smart as you.

Just titile !

Rabbi who said fundemental faith called Islam , and he explain the views according to that!

Check 37s

 

[Tumah]

Just titile !

Rabbi who said fundemental faith called Islam , and he explain the views according to that!

Check 37s

I explained what he was saying about that in an earlier post here. More than that, I can't really do here. I don't know why you think I would be trying to hide Jewish beliefs from you, when I spend all day here explaining them. Or why you think the Rabbi would remain Jewish if he thought as you did.
I guess if you need Jews to tell you Islam is the right religion, then me explaining that this is not what that guy was saying, would only hurt you. So its better for you if I remain silent.

Have a nice day.

 

[Godobeyer]

I explained what he was saying about that in an earlier post here. More than that, I can't really do here. I don't know why you think I would be trying to hide Jewish beliefs from you, when I spend all day here explaining them. Or why you think the Rabbi would remain Jewish if he thought as you did.
I guess if you need Jews to tell you Islam is the right religion, then me explaining that this is not what that guy was saying, would only hurt you. So its better for you if I remain silent.

Have a nice day.

No, I was discuss what the rabbi said.

I don't accuse you to hide jewish beliefs or ,and I am not asked to Jews to tell Islam right religion.,some they(rabbis) told that voluntarily

 

[faroukfarouk]

Peace to all.
Firstly i just want to thank all for their contribution.
Note the reason why i put the topic on the Islamic thread is for discussion and not debating.
To understand the Rabbi's statement one has to know what is the meaning of Islam.
Islam means submission to the one and only God,the creator.Submission is the translation of the word Islam in Arabic.The word Islam also means peace.
In short,Islam means,acquiring peace by submitting yourself to the will of the one God.
Adam and Eve submitted to the will of one God.
Prophet Noah submitted to the will of one God.
Prophet Abraham submitted to the will of one God.
Prophet Moses submitted to the will of one God.
Prophet Jesus submitted to the will of one God.
Prophet Muhammad submitted to the will of one God.
(Peace and blessings be upon them all).
Therefore if they all submitted to the will of one God then they were all in Islam.
Islam as a religion did not start by Prophet Muhammad (PBBUH).It was already in existence before the Prophet Muhammad (PBBUH) was born.
Now if you listen very carefully to the Rabbi's video you will notice that he is talking about the commonality between the different religion.In fact this is what i want to discuss in the next few weeks.
Peace.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Peace to all
Now lets go deeper into the subject and find commonality between Judaism and Christianity that confirms one is submitting to the will of God and hence is in Islam.
Number 1 the concept of God.
God is one.The concept of one God.Once you make partners to God then most definitely you not in Islam.
Matthew 4:10
"Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve".
Mark 12:29
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"
Isaiah 44:6
"I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God".
Isaiah 45:21-23
"and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear".
All the above biblical verses conforms to the teachings of Islam.
To be continued.
Peace.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Peace to all
Number 2 Prostration during Worship.
Matthew 26:39
And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
Genesis 17:3
And Abram fell on his face:
Numbers 20:6
And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the Lord appeared unto them.
1Kings 18:42
So Ahab went up to eat and to drink. And Elijah went up to the top of Carmel; and he cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees,
Joshua 5:14
And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?
1 Samuel 20:41
David arose out of a place toward the south, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himself three times:
Numbers 16:4
And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face
Numbers 16:22
And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?
Joshua 7:6
And Joshua rent his clothes, and fell to the earth upon his face before the ark of the Lord until the eventide, he and the elders of Israel, and put dust upon their heads.

Now this is how all the Prophets prayed and they were all in Islam.
Now read what God confirms about worship.
Isaiah 45
Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

To be continued......
Peace

 

[faroukfarouk]

Peace to all.
Number 3 Charity to the Poor
Deuteronomy 14:22
Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

Deuteronomy 15:11
For the poor shall never cease out of the land: therefore I command thee, saying, Thou shalt open thine hand wide unto thy brother, to thy poor, and to thy needy, in thy land.

Mathew 6:3
But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

Number 4 Fasting
Matthew 4:2
And when he(Jesus) had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.

Matthew 6:16
Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Matthew 17:21
Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

1Samuel 7:6
And they gathered together to Mizpeh, and drew water, and poured it out before the Lord, and fasted on that day,

Exodus 34:28
And he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

To be continued
Peace

 

[faroukfarouk]

Peace to all.
Number 5 Ablution before Worship
Exodus 40:30/31/32
And he set the laver between the tent of the congregation and the altar, and put water there, to wash withal.
And Moses and Aaron and his sons washed their hands and their feet thereat:
When they went into the tent of the congregation, and when they came near unto the altar, they washed; as the Lord commanded Moses.

Samuel 12:20
Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the Lord, and worshipped:

Acts 21:26
Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple,

Number 6 Circumcision
Luke 2:21
And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus,

Genesis 17:9/10/11
And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

To be continued
Peace

 

[Godobeyer]

@faroukfarouk you seems mixed between Torah and Gospel,as reference. both called Bible for Christians.

 

[faroukfarouk]

@faroukfarouk you seems mixed between Torah and Gospel,as reference. both called Bible for Christians.

Salaams my brother
What i am quoting is from both the Old Testament and New Testament.
Note every Prophet that came to this World was upholding the teachings of the previous Prophets.
And brother so far all the teachings that i gave are all commonality in Islam.Our Prophet Muhammad(PBBUH) also taught us the same teachings and it is all confirmed in the Noble Quraan.
"I will quote these teachings from verses in the Quraan in the end.
Just a quote from Matthew 5:17/18
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled"
Jesus(PBBUH) confirms in the above verse that he was upholding the teachings of previous Prophets.
Salaams
Will continue later.

 

[Quagmire]

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